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FAQs about Montipora Munching Nudibranchs

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Monti Eating Nudibranchs and predatory starfish I 8/11/04
Dear Bob Anthony,
<cheers, my friend>
First and foremost I wanted to say thank you for everything you do. I believe it can truly be said that this phenomenal hobby has advanced so much over the years because of your dedication to it!
<thanks kindly... it is a labor of love>
I had a quick question if you don't mind, and also wanted to bring to your attention an interesting experience that occurred. I am of the opinion that everything in the wild has its purpose, and will not try to eradicate anything unless it is truly harmful.
<agreed... and yet, there is a joke somewhere in there about politicians. Well give lawyers a pass on this one>
I have a fairly large system with 8 plating Montis in it. I went on vacation and when I returned I noted two plating Montis were suffering severe tissue loss. I thought the issue was more water quality related, particularly since my calc reactor had been down for several weeks and the filter socks needed cleaning. Despite water changes and dosing with Kalk, the affected Montis continued to RTN. I had heard of these little predatory Nudibranchs, but did not think there was a chance I had them. I fragged one of the Montis, and what do ya know there they were. Tons of them (to be honest, even though I have an obvious degree of hatred for them, they are fascinating).
<Arghhh... you have not been diligent about quarantining your livestock my friend. 'Tis why you have this pest now. Do QT all things wet in the future - live food, live sand and rock, snails, corals, fishes, everything! <G>>
My problem is the effected colony encrusted hardcore onto a large piece of rock, there is no way I can pry it lose. I am suspect that these suckers are concentrated under the base. Is there anyway to rid of these things?
<they are very difficult indeed... do check the extensive threads on this topic at reef central. I cannot say the bad news any better than they have :p>
Is there anything in the wild that eats them?
<certainly.. but reef-safe? Hmmm... spec at this point. Some have said various wrasses and dragonets. None excel though reliably>
I do have one CBB, but I would think some form of reef "safe" wrasse would be better.
<perhaps... Tamarins or small yellow/green "Coris">
Also, wanted to mention in the past there was a dispute as to whether these little brown starfish we all have actually eat SPS (i.e. GARF).
<Asterina species... and yes, I have read the GARF info. I do not believe it is accurate.>
I had been in the SPS end of things and never had an issue so I was not concerned. Indeed they do eat SPS, the other colony I referred to above had tons of these brown starfish on the underside, right were the run line was on each plate. What is stranger, I have tons of across and non have been affected. Looks like it is time to buy a harlequin (there are plenty of these things to last the harlequin quite a long time).  As always thanks!!!!!!!!
<do check out my take on Asterina and other sea stars in the recent article on reefkeeping.com from a couple of months ago. Best regards, Anthony Calfo>

Monti Eating Nudibranchs and predatory starfish II 8/11/04
By the way, I am curious (from a scientific perspective) as to whether these predatory Nudi's show a preference for certain species of plating Monti, or whether this is just a random event.
<there are quite a few opisthobranchs that are obligate on one species of invertebrate or very limited (by genus usually) otherwise. There are lists of slug species and their prey available on the web. DO check out resources like the seaslug forum. We also have an extensive list of web sites and references on seaslugs in the bibliography of our book "Reef Invertebrates" by Calfo and Fenner 2003>
What I think is strange is the Nudi's have only affected one colony, none of the others have them (at least not yet). It would be neat to take frags of say 10 types of plating Monti, and see which species they show a statistically significant preference for
Thanks
<please do take photos and tell us of your findings if not write an article. Anthony>

Something eating SPS - Montipora
Anthony, happy holidays and hope all is well with you.
<Adam here today.  Anthony bumped this over to me since I just dealt with this problem in my own tank.>
I noticed one of my recent frags, a Montiporas Cap,  that is purple in color bleached around the edges about a quarter of an inch.  This is more then the  normal white tips from growth.  I attributed this to a drop in Alk while I was adjusting to my winter evaporation rate.  
<I did pretty much the same thing.  I attributed it to water quality, did some water changes and never really inspected the coral closely.>
However, I have noticed a small white spiral looking thing on the white part of the coral.  Looks almost like a very small white fan worm (at least the ends of the fan worm anyway).
<The critter you saw is an Aeolid Nudibranch.  They seem to becoming quite common in the hobby, likely from frag trading.  They seem to favor plating Montiporas, but will move on to branching forms.>
I also noticed a small white area on my
established, thriving purple cap.  Could this be a bug or something?  Any ideas or am I  just seeing things.
<The white spots are where the Nudi's have eaten the coenosteum (tissue between polyps) of the coral.  Unfortunately these are very real and quite difficult to get rid of.  Manual removal is the only way to do so without significant risk of killing the coral.  You will have to remove the infested corals every day or couple of days and pick or scrub off any Nudibranchs or eggs.  It may be best to this in a bucket of tank water since the critters tend to collapse under their own weight and become difficult to spot out of the water.  After you are 100% sure you have eliminated them, continue to check your Montiporas at least weekly.  I continued to find one or two a week for about a month.>
Thanks
<No Sweat, and best of luck!  Adam>
Andrew

Montipora Eating Nudibranch Predator? - 05/26/06
Hello WWM staff,
<<Hello Stephen>
I recently noticed a small number (at least what I could see) of Nudibranchs consuming various species of my Montipora.
<<Mmm, very bad...and their numbers are higher than you realize>>
This was very disappointing as I have gone through a QT for everything, but obviously something slipped by my inspection.
<<Indeed>>
Over the past 3 weeks I have moved most of my Montipora to a frag tank where I inspect and manually remove the adults and eggs at least every other day.
<<Prolific breeders, I would do this daily...if you're serious about eradicating the Nudibranchs>>
Finding very few now and found none yesterday!
<<Keep checking...a few weeks quarantine in order here>>
I do however have 2 large colonies of M. digitata that I can not remove completely as they have encrusted large rocks at their bases.
<<Different species about (Nudibranchs), but my experience with these critters is they showed a definite preference for the plating (e.g. - M. capricornis) and encrusting (e.g. - M. danae) Montipora over the branching varieties>>
Just yesterday I noticed 1 Nudi at the base of one of these colonies (Where there is one, I'm sure there are more).
<<Yes>>
After dispatching this Nudi I inspected as best I
could and can not see any more.
<<Again, in my experience, once the food source is removed they tend to "disappear" quickly>>
So having found this in my display still and not being able to easily remove all of the Montipora, is there a fish predator for these guys that would make an appropriate addition to a community reef tank for a 90gal?
<<Not that I'm aware...for sure.  Some of the reef-safe wrasses "may" eat the Nudibranchs, but I have never witnessed/heard confirmed reports of this.  If you wish to try, a wrasse from the genus Halichoeres might be a good choice>>
I have seen a couple of species or wrasses mention, but little direct discussion.
<<Indeed...I once experienced and episode with these Nudibranchs...I had wrasses from four different genera in my tank (including Halichoeres) but could never discern any of them feeding on the Nudibranchs>>
Thank you,
Stephen
<<Quite welcome, EricR>>

Best Predator For Montipora Eating Nudibranch? – 12/12/07
Hi!
<<Hello Dominique>>
What would be the best predator against Montipora eating Nudibranchs (Aeolids)?
<<This “ideal predator” is likely another larger/different species of Nudibranch...and probably not readily available to the hobby>>
Is it very likely to help? Very importantly, is it safe around small shrimps such as sexy shrimps?
<<I’ve found little, in my experience, that will help with battling these pests. Even prophylactic dips seemed more harmful to the already stressed corals than the Nudibranchs...and although freshwater dips did kill the nudis, they also killed the corals>>
Would the six line wrasse (Pseudocheilinus hexataenia) be a good choice?
<<Not in my experience. This and a couple other wrasse genera I’ve tried (Halichoeres, Cirrhilabrus) did not seem interested at all in these small pest Nudibranchs>>
Any risk that this wrasse eats sexy shrimps...?
<<Is a possibility>>
One last thing, is it going to doom my mandarin (food competition)?
<<The Pseudocheilinus will out-compete the mandarin, and unless the system is large (more than 100g), will also likely deplete the available food supply>>
Many thanks!
Dominique
<<I’m afraid I don’t have a simple answer for your problem. You can try manual extraction with tweezers (very tedious...and they multiply very quickly) and blowing/clearing the Nudibranchs from the affected corals with a turkey baster. Both of these tactics will work best if the corals can be removed to a bare-bottom quarantine tank to facilitate siphon removal of stray/blown-off animals/egg strands. I have seen these Nudibranchs “cycle-out” on their own after a while, and without eating/killing “all” their prey food items...though most all small colonies were lost. Do also check the reef forums (Reef Central, reefs.org) and see if someone there has had any success eradicating these pests. Regards, EricR>>

Re: Best Predator For Montipora Eating Nudibranch? – 12/12/07
Thanks for the reply.
<<Sorry it wasn’t better news>>
It's a depressing situation.
<<Agreed…though I must mention, it may have been avoided with quarantine>>
I just read some people saying the six line wrasse helped them.
<<Is possible>>
I am skeptical about that given what you already told me.
<<I can only relate my experience and the experience of others I have known>>
So far it seems to eat a single species.
<<The Nudibranch? Yes, it is quite common for these creatures to feed very selectively…sometimes even only on a single prey species>>
Even moved to the other end of the tank to eat some more of it while there was another Monti species in the vicinity.
<<My experience with these Nudibranchs was that they fed only on the plating and encrusting species of Montipora…and completely ignored M. digitata>>
But I don’t know what they'll do when there is nothing left of that species they like.
<<Hopefully they will just “fade away”>>
I also just read that they should eat all Montipora species.
<<I disagree… Some seem quite specific in their diet. Hopefully you will be lucky in this regard>>
My tank is Montipora dominated. If they wipe out my colonies of digitata I think I may go out of the hobby. :( We shall see...
Thanks again!
Dominique
<<My fingers are crossed… Am hoping, betting you will be around for a while [grin]. Good luck my friend. Eric Russell>>

R2: Best Predator For Montipora Eating Nudibranch? – 12/13/07
Am more relaxed about it today after a night’s sleep, but was a bit freaking out yesterday. :)
<<No worries re the “freaking”… And I’m glad you feel better>>
For sure you are right about quarantine, but there is one thing: the nudis *appeared* just two months (exactly 57 days) after introduction of the new/latest coral in my tank. Is that not amazing!?
<<Hmm, interesting… Perhaps there was an incidental introduction/hitchhiker (Nudibranch or eggs) on an added piece of rock, macroalgae, even a fish…>>
So to be bullet proof (at least with Montipora eating Aeolid Nudibranchs) I guess one has to do a three month quarantine.
<<Mmm, well…not really practical, eh?>>
Ok, will report to you on the final outcome in a few months...
<<Please do!>>
Thanks for your support Eric!
Dominique
<<Is my pleasure to assist. Eric Russell>>

R3: Best Predator For Montipora Eating Nudibranch? (Update) – 02/20/08
Hi Eric,
<<Hiya Dominique!>>
Just to let you know about the final outcome of the Montipora eating Nudibranch invasion.
<<Ah, okay!>>
You were right about how specific they are in their diet.
<<Indeed>>
They do seem to be impossible to remove from a tank until there is no more food for them.
<<Yep>>
They also can move to the sump easily to follow their prey if one naïvely tries to hide a piece down there...
<<Ha! Sorry, I know it’s not funny, but…>>
But they only eat capricornis,
<<At least this particular species>>
not even other plating Montipora.
<<Mmm…”quite specific” indeed>>
In fact there is a nice piece in my tank I assumed to be a capricornis as it looks very similar and was sold to me as such, but the nudis make the difference.
<<I see>>
I made a little research since then and ID it as M. undata.
<<Oh? Neat…>>
So only two small/medium sized (capricornis) corals were affected in the end: nothing happened to the many digitata, danae, undata and nodosa.
<< Yay!>>
So I won’t be selling my tank after all... ;)
Dominique
<< I’m pleased you’ve decided to stay in the hobby…and I thank you much for the update. Cheers, Eric Russell>>

Re: (Follow up: to Eric Russell) New solution against Monti eating nudis...
New Weapon In The Fight Against Montipora-Eating Nudibranchs – 03/10/08
Hi Eric!
<<Hiya Dominique!>>
I just made this discovery. Using camel shrimps (Rhynchocinetes durbanensis) to fight Montipora eating Aeolid Nudibranchs.
<<Really?>>
Never heard of that trick before.
<<Me neither…though I must mention, I don’t consider these shrimp “reef-safe” at all>>
Very interesting, have a look: http://www.korallen-zucht.de/index.php?article_id=52&clang=1
<<Ahh! A shrimp stocked “cleansing tank” separate from the main display…and utilized like a hospital/treatment tank…though for a much shorter time period. Keeping a small tank with a few of these shrimp in it should be a simple thing; and an interesting display on its own to boot!… Very cool!>>
Ciao!
Dominique
<<Thanks so much for the input, my friend. Prendere cura! EricR>>

Nudibranchs, as pred.s on Acroporas    -02/20/08
Hello crew,
<Howdy>
I very quick question for you. I have gotten some information from my supplier and would like some help. I have purchased a lot of various Acroporas in the past, (cultured only). My recent purchases have somewhat intrigued me. All the Acroporas, are dipped and placed in quarantine for 6 weeks. No matter what. However these corals are dying from the bottom up, and from the tips inward. After contacting my supplier he claims there is a huge problem with parasitic Nudibranchs industry wide and manufactures are scrambling to find a solution that will kill the Nudibranchs and their eggs. How you any information on this. I have sent some die off pieces to a lab friend, so I do not have any pictures yet. Thanks, I appreciate any help.
<Hmm... AEF usually eat/kill from the base up and out. If your corals are dying from the tips in, that sounds more like a different problem. In any case, this is my favorite page/site on AEF:
http://www.melevsreef.com/aefw.html
You can see from the pictures what an infected coral looks like and how the infestation progresses. Another good article...
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-09/mc/index.php>
Ann Marie
<Best,
Sara M.>

Montipora-Eating Nudibranch Question – 02/21/09
Hello,
<<Hi Jeremy>>
I unfortunately have Montipora eating Nudibranchs.
<<Ugh… I have dealt with these pests in the past…very destructive and not easy to eradicate>>
I have some encrusted Montipora that I won't be able to completely remove from my tank.
<<Then sadly, these will likely be lost. Though you could, as I’m sure you are aware, frag them up and remove to quarantine for inspection/treatment>>
I have set up a QT tank and my plan is to remove the Montipora that I can and frag the ones that I can't remove and move them to my QT tank.
<<Ah! Yes>>
I will dip them in Revive every couple days to try to kill the Nudibranchs. I understand the dip won't kill the eggs but I am thinking if I dip every couple days for an extended period of time I will get them all.
<<Maybe so… But do also inspect the undersides of the corals daily and remove adults/eggs as you find them>>
I am sadly going to have to let nature run it coarse on the Montipora I can't get out of my tank and hopefully starve the Nudibranchs. I have read that these pests can live two months without food.
<<I too have heard they can/will enter a dormant stage…but I can also attest that without a food source they will decline/cease to be>>
I have two questions, how long should I keep my Montipora in the QT tank and is Revive an effective dip for the pests?
<<I would give the system a good two weeks after the last of the remaining Montipora is gone from the display. Then I would add a sizeable frag of Montipora (choose a species the Nudibranchs “especially” liked if possible) to the display and inspect this frag daily for re-infestation. If in another two weeks the Nudibranchs don’t show up on this frag, then it’s likely you can return all your Montipora to the display without fear. As for the dip… The Revive is probably fine, nothing is likely to get everything as you stated…but I would also try Tropic Marin’s Pro-Coral Cure as this iodine-based product may well act differently/more effectively on the Nudibranchs than the plant-based Revive. But only one way to find out…>>
Thanks for your help!
Jeremy
<<Happy to share. EricR>>

Montipora-Eating Nudibranch Question – 02/21/09
Hello,
<<Hi Jeremy>>
I unfortunately have Montipora eating Nudibranchs.
<<Ugh… I have dealt with these pests in the past…very destructive and not easy to eradicate>>
I have some encrusted Montipora that I won't be able to completely remove from my tank.
<<Then sadly, these will likely be lost. Though you could, as I’m sure you are aware, frag them up and remove to quarantine for inspection/treatment>>
I have set up a QT tank and my plan is to remove the Montipora that I can and frag the ones that I can't remove and move them to my QT tank.
<<Ah! Yes>>
I will dip them in Revive every couple days to try to kill the Nudibranchs. I understand the dip won't kill the eggs but I am thinking if I dip every couple days for an extended period of time I will get them all.
<<Maybe so… But do also inspect the undersides of the corals daily and remove adults/eggs as you find them>>
I am sadly going to have to let nature run it coarse on the Montipora I can't get out of my tank and hopefully starve the Nudibranchs. I have read that these pests can live two months without food.
<<I too have heard they can/will enter a dormant stage…but I can also attest that without a food source they will decline/cease to be>>
I have two questions, how long should I keep my Montipora in the QT tank and is Revive an effective dip for the pests?
<<I would give the system a good two weeks after the last of the remaining Montipora is gone from the display. Then I would add a sizeable frag of Montipora (choose a species the Nudibranchs “especially” liked if possible) to the display and inspect this frag daily for re-infestation. If in another two weeks the Nudibranchs don’t show up on this frag, then it’s likely you can return all your Montipora to the display without fear. As for the dip… The Revive is probably fine, nothing is likely to get everything as you stated…but I would also try Tropic Marin’s Pro-Coral Cure as this iodine-based product may well act differently/more effectively on the Nudibranchs than the plant-based Revive. But only one way to find out…>>
Thanks for your help!
Jeremy
<<Happy to share. EricR>>






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