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FAQs about Stony Coral Foods/Feeding/Nutrition 3
Related Articles: Coral Feeding, Food/Feeding/Nutrition,
LPS Corals, True or
Stony Corals, Order Scleractinia, Propagation
for Marine Aquarium Use,
Related FAQs: Coral Feeding 1, Coral
Feeding 2, & FAQs on Stony Coral
Feeding: Rationale,
Types, Amounts,
Frequency,
Techniques, Coral Foods DIY,
Commercial Products... &
Cnidarian Feeding,
Growing
Reef Corals, Stony Coral
Identification, Stony
Coral Behavior,
See Also: Marine Foods/Feeding/Nutrition in the lower
tray of Marine Maintenance:
Some corals are totally reliant on feeding, not
photosynthesis... and must have their polyps attended to individually.
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Trachyphyllia Health 11-11-08
Hi crew, my Trachyphyllia is not eating.
<Odd, especially for a fleshy LPS coral such as this>
I¹ve been reading through your
archives and can't determine how to handle my situation and I'm afraid if I
wait too much longer I might lose the coral.
When I purchased the coral it had beautiful color, its tentacles were
coming out at night, I was able to feed it mysis during the day so all was
well. Within a week I noticed the color starting to fade, and it stopped
responding to food. After reading, I suspect current and lighting may be the
culprit. The coral is placed on the sand bed in the center of the tank 1/3
is shaded by a little cliff the other 2/3 or in direct light from 3 - 24"
VHO bulbs this gives my 29gal over 7.7w per gallon (18² tank depth).
<Wattage is a useless indicator of PAR, but the bulb information and depth help>
Current is around 1000 gph, a lot of this happened to be hitting the front
glass and redirecting to where the coral was placed.
<Laminar currents are never good for the vast majority of coral species, and
especially not for this 'LPS' species>
After the decline in
health, I realized the placement of the coral was directly in one of the
highest current areas of the tank.
<Not good - in the wild, these corals sit in less active areas that are more
turbid. Your lighting may be too intense as well>
Since then I have redirected flow and it
is now in a minimal flow zone.
<Good - a low amount of turbulent random flow is the best>
However, I have read that the coral is very
sensitive to light and to only move it as a last resort.
<Very sensitive to too much light - often done in this day and age of putting
intense lighting over everything. However, in this case I believe the water flow
is of more concern>
This is one of my
concerns, and I believe it is the main cause if its declining health. The
store I bought it from had it in a small power compact system, so I believe
it is in shock from the large increase in light.
<You didn't acclimate it to the (much) more intense lighting of your system?
Definitely a cause for a health decline>
So my first question is
whether or not I should move it off to either side of the tank or let it
adjust to were it is.
<Do not move it again! The worst thing for a photosynthetic animal (besides
being cared for inappropriately) is being moved around the tank! I would attempt
to shade it though if it is an area of full light - eggcrate of window screen
may help in the short term. In the long term, please acclimate properly, and
research the species you plan to keep to make sure your lighting is appropriate>
Second critical issue is that it is no longer excepting food. It does not
extend it¹s tentacles at night anymore, instead it inflates like a bubble.
During the day it still inflated normal, and will sometimes have it¹s mouths
wide open but does not seem to respond to the food anymore. I have several
food thieves in the tank, so I cut the top off of a plastic bottle and have
placed this over the coral, but unfortunately, I have not been able to get
it to eat.
<When the more critical issues are resolved, it will begin to feed normally>
I would love to see this creature eating/behaving normal again, and regain
its beautiful color.
<It will, in time and with the proper care. Please review our archives regarding
the proper care of "open brain" type LPS corals. You can also read and post on
our forums (we have a few members that love these types of corals) at
bb.wetwebmedia.com. We'd love to see you there>
Please help,
<Hope I have, and I hope I don't sound too harsh. This is a tougher species of
coral, and should recover just fine once shaded somewhat>
Tim
<M. Maddox>
Torch 11/01/08
Hi again, once again I am here, humbly before the reef-gods...
<Haha... hardly a deity here.>
I have been smitten with the Torch Coral since I first laid eyes upon it a
year ago. I live in a small town with a very limited supply of anything
salt, and the tiny LFS has sub-standard conditions for the coral they offer
for sale, with no lighting (none at all at this point), when they do have
lighting it is only standard incandescent bulbs
<Seriously? Yikes.>
not even suitable for freshwater IMO, but in any case, that is their
supply. They also run wet-dry only, and no skimmer. So when they do get
coral, if nobody buys it, it just slowly dies. Very sad. So I went in there
yesterday, and there was a torch, about 8 heads, and slowly dying. All
tentacles were completely void of color, completely white and transparent.
The price tag was 60 bucks on this guy who had been under darkness for a
week or better, but I felt so bad for it I went ahead and bought it,
<Hmm... I would have at least haggled down the price.>
hoping to revive it, and color it up. It isn't expanding as it should, but
it IS expanding, a little, enjoying my halides no doubt. I did start it out
under actinic hoping not to shock it and make his condition worse. In any
case, my question to you is, IS that considered bleaching, and do LPS
corals bleach?
<Likely so, yes... and absolutely, "LPS" corals bleach just as other corals
do.>
Or is it some other condition? I have seen many SPS corals bleach,
unfortunately, I bought them when I was still young in the hobby...Still am
pretty new, only 1+ year.
<Ah, you should not have started out with the "sps" corals. Typically we
don't recommend keeping most sps in tanks any less than a year old.>
BUT have DAILY studied WetWebMedia, reef central,
<RC, the forum? I'd advice you to read Reef keeping the magazine instead
(produced by the same site)... be weary of the forums unless you know the
people answering the posts. Remember that usually anyone at all can answer
a question on an open forum (they don't necessarily know what they're
talking about). And of course, WWM is always a great source. :-) There
are a few good books out there too.>
and the wealth of info on the web (usually wetweb) on coral, reefkeeping,
and marine life. I am so thankful for your site, it has been such a savior
in so many areas for me when I didn't know squat!
<Great to hear!>
So anyway, I have this torch who in one day is looking a little better, a
little fuller, and I have high hopes for him, but I really want to know if
I am doing the right thing with him as far as "diagnosing" the bleaching
and such. Also what do I feed him?
<Please see: http://www.asira.org/feedingyourtanks
and also: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corlfdgfaq3.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/feeding.htm>
My frogspawn seems to do fine with mysis,
<Yes, a good choice... but variety is also important.>
but I could be totally wrong and they are actually not eating it but
letting it go. I have zooplankton but I have had it (refrigerated) about 6
mo. and I'm not sure if it is still live?
Thank you all so much! Tanya
<Good luck,
Sara M.>
Candy Cane Stopped Extending Tentacles – 10/28/08
Hello,
<<Hi>>
I have a candy cane coral that I've had for about 2 years now. I've ignored my
aquarium recently and haven't fed the coral. I use to feed the coral about once
a week. Since ignoring the coral, the tentacles stopped coming out.
<<Mmm…this is possibly a symptom of ignoring the tank in general (water quality
issues), rather than not target feeding the Caulastrea. A healthy coral should
show “some type” of feeding response most of the time when any meaty foods are
introduced to the system>>
My problem is finding a way to revive the coral.
<<Start with reestablishing balance to your system…if this is an issue>>
I use to feed the coral by giving food to the tentacles with an eye dropper, but
now there are no tentacles to feed. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
<<If this organism is healthy, just dropping a bit of food on it should
stimulate a feeding response. Try small meaty foods like Cyclop-Eeze, small
Mysis Shrimp, or finely chopped fresh seafoods from the market. Adding a bit of
nutrient booster, like Selcon or Vita-Chem, to these offerings should also help
here>>
Thanks for your time.
<<Happy to share. EricR>>
TLC for a sun coral
-09/02/08 Dear All :D I recently acquired two new corals for my
135g tank, both came from other aquarists who couldn't look after them (too
little space, not enough feeding...). One is a Goniopora and the second an
orange sun coral. I've been target feeding both and although they are better now
than they were when I got them a month ago, about half of each colony is
skeletal, rather than nicely covered in polyps... So, my question is this:
what is the best food to give them to encourage regrowth (if this is possible)?
I've read an excellent article on WWM where a lady took the corals out of the
tank and into a "feeder" tank, which is entirely possible for me to do . The
food I currently give the tank (and corals) consists of frozen brine shrimp.
mysis, cockle, rotifers, a marine mix (containing a variety of seafoods)
<All good choices... do *finely* chop the larger foods.> and marine snow
(which isn't targeted at the corals but left to disperse in the flow). The
marine snow is given once every three days <This is a useless product (not
worth the expense or even the time/energy to put it in the tank)-IMO> while
the rest are feed one cube daily, rotating the food given. <Good idea>
The fish are also given flake once a day too. <Oh, why not feed the fish a
chunkier version of what you're feeding the coral?> Carolyn (forever in your
debt for all the help you've given me!) <Best, Sara M.>
Pavona/Montipora identity questions...
10/23/07 Hello crew, <Chad> I bought a nice piece of plating metallic red/orange Pavona this weekend and I'm wondering if it has the same potential growth rates as a plating Montipora. <Mmm, no. The Acroporid has a much greater growth rate potential> The polyps are quite large and I have read that they do not need additional feedings, is this true? <Not IMO... I would purposely feed all captive Scleractinians> I have a 250 MH lamp (10,000 K) shining on it. I believe both the Pavona and Montipora came from Tonga. <Possibly, yes. Both genera are collected from this island nation> The Montipora was sold to me as a "Superman morph" that has not morph yet since being out of the ocean. <Interesting terminology> To be honest I'm not sure if it is even a Montipora once I saw some of the polyps come out. This is an encrusting piece that is purple with purple polyps but the polyps look exactly like miniature start polyps. They even have the white dot in the middle of them. Do you have any idea without a picture what this could be? <Not really> The encrusting flesh is not as soft as the star polyps but very similar being purple and encrusting but hard like Montipora. Thanks for any additional information you can provide. I have done plenty of research on the internet but to no avail. That is why I seek council from the best. Thanks, Chad <Perhaps a set of J.E.N. Veron's "Corals of the World" for Xmas... Bob Fenner>
Pump on or Pump Off, No Need to Feed for a Week Away.
5/21/07
<Hi Sue, Mich here.>
Just a quick question. I have looked through multiple postings concerning
feeding, but have not found the answer to my question. I have had two candy
cane coral frags for about a month and have been feeding them during the day
with the pump off. They have been doing well and appear to be growing. My
question is this; is it totally necessary to leave the pump off while
feeding?
<It is a good practice and I would encourage you to continue doing so when
you can, but no, it is not necessary.>
I need to be gone for a week, and my "fish sitter" is not familiar enough
with fish husbandry to reset the protein skimmer if the pumps need to be
off. Can these lovely creatures go a week with just filtering what is
circulated in the tank if food is dumped in with the pumps on?
<Yes. Most corals and fish in a generally well-maintained, healthy state can
go for a week without food. It is generally better for the livestock to
have no food than to be in a system polluted with excess food from a well
intending fish sitter. Candy cane coral (Caulastrea) have zooxanthellae and
are photosynthetic. They should thrive when being provided supplemental
feeding as you are currently doing. That being said they will do fine
without any food for a week but will appreciate any they can grab while you
are gone!
Thanks in advance for the advice and your wonderful site.
<Thank you for your kind words! Mich>
Sue
Feeding my corals 2/5/07
Hi there,
<Hello Susan, Mich with you tonight.>
I'm a newcomer to saltwater aquariums and am hooked -- thoroughly loving this
wonderful hobby and very much enjoying your column.
<Excellent!>
Thanks for all your hard work.
<Mostly Bob's.>
I purchased a mature 90 gal. set-up in October/06 and so far things have been
going pretty well, although a few of my corals are a bit sad due to my
inexperience. Thanks to you guys, they are now on solid foods.
<Very good.>
My bubble coral and plate coral (the kind with long tentacles) have lost a lot
of tissue and their stony fins are showing. Thanks to your advice, I have
started feeding them finely chopped Mysis so I'm hoping they'll recover.
<Me too! You may want to soak your Mysis in Selcon, a vitamin supplement.>
Also, I have moved the plate coral to the sand bottom (I previously had him
perched higher up on a flat rock) so hopefully he will be happier.
<Hopefully.>
Here's my question: When the bubble and plate coral have their "mouths" open
(the slit in the middle is unzipped), is that a good time to feed them?
<Can be.>
Also, the plate coral is giving off quite a bit of filament, almost making a web
around itself sometimes. Should I be doing anything about this?
<You may want to use carbon and change it with some frequency. This mucus
contains cytotoxins that could have a negative effect on other corals in your
system.>
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
<You're welcome! -Mich>
Susan
Feed Me Seymour!!! Trachyphyllia and torch coral feeding problem,
1/29/07
Hello guys,
<Hi there Mark, Mich with you tonight.>
Gotta say, I found your site a couple of weeks ago and have been reading through
a lot of the FAQ's ever since and it's an amazing service that you provide!
Great job!!
<Welcome to WWM, glad you found us!>
I have an open brain coral and a torch coral. The open brain seems to be doing
just ok. We've had it for about 2.5 months now and it hasn't grown at all. It
has these spikes (don't know the right word for it) that are all around the
circumference and some of them are white now. The store told us to feed this
phytoplankton powder stuff (please forgive the spelling if it is wrong) for all
of our corals.
<Less than ideal.>
I've been reading on your site that we need to be feeding both the torch and
brain corals with meat like krill or shrimp. Is this phytoplankton stuff
sufficient?
<Mmm, not really, there are better options out there.>
I've been trying the meat at night about an hour after the lights go out but the
little mouths aren't opening any more at night, and before the corals have a
chance at the meat, the cleaner shrimp come along and steal the food.
<Oh yes, been there, done that, an exercise in frustration so sure.>
The torch coral is fairing less. It is turning white and the white is working
it's way from the base of each torch and working it's way out to the end where
the mouths are. I've been having the same problem with it since I've been trying
to feed meat lately, the shrimp come along and steal it. Do you have any
suggestions for how to feed these guys without the shrimp coming along and
stealing it?
<Yes, you will need to temporarily move these corals to try to rehab
them. Frozen Mysis shrimp soaked in Selcon would be a good food source. Use
only the meaty parts, the liquid will just produce excess nutrients in your
tank. They need to be somewhere that the shrimp can not steal the food, one way
of doing this is to place them high in the tank and keeping vigil over them
while you are feeding them, scooting the shrimp away if need be. I've also
tried temporarily covering them during feeding time, but did not find this
method terribly successful. These corals are not doing well, tissue recession is
never a good sign. You will need to be pretty vigilant to bring them back to
health. How are your calcium levels? Have you been doing frequent water
changes? If not, now is the time to start.>
Also, I've been reading that the open brain coral
should be placed on the substrate, and it always has been, but the torch coral
is placed on some rocks about mid way up the tank. We have a 90gal with VHO
lighting, 2-40watt 10K blue actinic lights and 2-40watt 10K actinic white
lights.
<This is contributing to your problems. This is not enough light. Please read
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/lighting/index.htm
Please consider adding light to you tank if you plan on keeping corals. Your
ballast should be able to handle bigger bulbs if you are truly running a VHO
setup and not just a normal output system.>
The blues come on an hour before the whites and stay on an hour after the
whites. Is this placement all wrong for the torch coral, should it be on the
substrate as well?
<Not necessarily, at this point these corals need intensive care.>
Also, just FYI in case, the tank params are: ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrates 25,
<I hope you mean 0.25 ppm here.> phosphates .2, calcium
460, alkalinity 4.5, <Elevated, less than 3.5 meq is desirable.> and PH 8.1.
Thanks for all of your help!!
<You're welcome!>
Mark
Re: Feed Me Seymour!!! Trachyphyllia and Torch coral feeding problem
1/29/07
<Hello Mark, Mich with you again.>
Thanks for the tips!!
<Welcome! I hope they help, and if you figure out something better, please
share!>
Here's some clarifications/questions to your responses. I was incorrect on the
lighting, they are not 40 watt, they are actually the 48" 110 watt Coralife VHO
bulbs. I must have thinking of my
garage lights, DOH!!
<Heeheee! Something seemed inconsistent...>
That should be enough for the size tank we have I would think...
<Yes, much more appropriate.>
We do frequent water changes, 90 gal. tank about 18-20 gals
changed per every 2 weeks.
<Very good.>
For the alkalinity, the Sea Chem test kit we have says it should be between 4
and 6 meq. I've been buffering it up to just a bit into that range since it also
says natural sea water is between 2 and 3 meq. I figure it shouldn't be at the
other end of the 4-6 range. I can back off a bit, but then pH drops to 7.9-8.0,
too low from what I've been reading.
<Nah, keep doing what your doing.>
I will give your suggestions a try on the feeding. It looks
like the corals mouths are open tonight, so hopefully they will eat good!
<And well too!>
Thanks for your help!! You guys are great!!
<You're welcome! Not great, just trying to make the world a little bit
better. -Mich>
Mark
Response to Feed Me Seymour!!! Trachyphyllia and torch coral feeding
problem, 2/16/07
Hey WWM,
<Hi there Johnny! Mich here.>
I was recently doing my nightly browsing of your site and came across
someone's question Feed Me Seymour!!! Trachyphyllia and torch coral feeding
problem, 1/29/07 and thought that I may be of some assistance. Pretty
sure other people probably use this method, but in order for me to keep my
fish and shrimp from stealing the food off my Trachy, I cut off the top of a
Gatorade Bottle about 4 to 5 inches down from the mouth. I rinsed it
thoroughly to get out all the additives and glue from the label. Now, my
open brain is bigger than the bottle circumference but with a little coxing
it will retract and allow me to put the bottle over him and allow me to drop
the chopped Shrimp or silversides onto the mouths with out the thieves
getting to it. Hope this Helps...
<Thank you for sharing. -Mich>
Johnny Droste
One comment and two questions, Aqua-C, mud in a 'fuge and feeding Scler.
1/27/07
Hello WWM Crew,
<Bart/holomew!>
Thanks you so much for the wonderful service you provide. I wanted to comment
on the great service I received recently from one of your sponsors. I love my
Aqua-C skimmer! The O-ring dried out and cracked (as O-rings do). I made one
phone call, waited two days and TWO new O-rings arrived in the mail. No muss,
no fuss, and NO CHARGE!
<Hee heee, Freeeeeee!>
This is a great company and they will be skimming for me till I no longer need
to skim. Now, two quick questions if I may: I am running a closed-loop return
manifold that I constructed using Anthony's informative article on my 72 gallon
bow-front reef system. It was fun to build and works great with the old-style
external Quiet-One pump that I have. My question has to do with the intake. I
used my miter-saw to make cuts half-way through a ¾" piece of PVC to make a
strainer. Over this I have placed a coarse sponge filter to keep the tiny
snails I have all over my tank from getting into the pump.
<Good design>
I dislike the sponge filter because I have to clean it and because I suspect
it is a source of nitrate in my tank. It is the only mechanical filter I have
on the system as I use a refugium and skimming for water treatment. Do you
think I could remove the sponge?
<Mmm, no, I'd leave it, or something similar in place... as a screen>
Would the tiny snails be able to stop the pump?
<Possibly, yes... and/or cause trouble in being crushed, dissolving...>
Secondly, I have an assortment of Caulastrea and Euphyllia corals (widely
spaced, of course). Do you have a recommendation as to a food of the
appropriate particle size for feeding these animals?
<A mix of live or frozen/defrosted zooplankters... "of small size", 1/16"
diameter nominally will do>
I suspect the Mysis I feed the fish is a bit large for these corals to utilize.
<Yes, likely so>
Thanks again for the good work you do.
Best Regards,
Bart V
<Welcome... Oh and please do read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/faviidfdgfaqs.htm
and here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/caryfdgfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>
Amino Acid Supplements For Coral 1/12/06
Hi Crew,
<Hello Mohamed, Mich with you today.>
I will like to know what is the benefits of using amino acid for corals and has
anyone from the crew done experiments with amino acid?
<The benefit is providing nutrients that are not easily synthesized from the
environment. Many extol the use of vitamin supplements such as Selcon, which
contains amino acids.
Eric Borneman mentions in his book Aquarium Corals on page 58 that
"Some of the products required by corals and zooxanthellae that are not supplied
by photosynthesis include vitamins and long chain fatty acids. These compounds
are supplied by diet only. Glycine is also a compound the many coral do not
easily synthesize, and it, along with some carbon, may be obtained in the wild
by living in proximity to the released photosynthetic products of certain macro
algae."
In a home aquarium this association may not be possible. Therefore addition of
amino acids via a vitamin supplement may be quite advantageous.
Thanks
Mohamed
Re: Amino Acids Supplements For Coral 1/17/06
Hi Mich,
Thanks for a speedy reply.
<Welcome, sorry this one isn't quite so speedy.>
On the same subject. What are the types of amino acid that is required by
corals?
<Hmm, varies with differ organisms, thus the multivitamin recommendation (and
also a high quality mixed diet).>
Is there a formula for amino acid similar to iodine which can be mixed?
<RMF says Aminoplex, a veterinary product, may be of benefit if slowly dripped
into the tank during daylight hours only.>
Thanks
<Welcome, hope that helps! -Mich>
Mohamed
Reef tank feeding question 2/1/06
Folks.
<David>
I've been spending a lot of time the last few weeks reading your site,
<I as well... too much>
in particular responses re. feeding reef tanks. Your site is an excellent
resource - I wish I had found it years ago.
<And you had joined us by now responding to queries>
My next reef will be much different based on what I've read here. Here's my
current setup (this tank has been doing well - I also have a QT and a
nano but this is the tank I have questions about at the moment):
55G 4 foot tank
2" live sand substrate
60 - 70# live rock
wavemaker/powerheads
skimmer
heater
T5 lighting (4X54W) 12 hrs/day, 4 blue LED "moonlights" 24 hrs/day
Water check every week is good (Hagen tests), 10% weekly water change
w/RODI + Instant Ocean. Makeup water is RODI.
Kent-I (weekly)
Kent Coral-Vite (weekly)
Kent Essential Elements (weekly)
Seachem Reef Complete (weekly, different day than others)
Seachem Reef Builder (weekly, different day than others)
pineapple brain (small)
plate coral (medium)
candy cane coral (small)
red/blue mushrooms (small)
hairy mushrooms (small)
bullseye mushrooms (small)
xenia (large)
leather toadstool (large)
colt/finger (LFS was not sure, I haven't come across any pics yet - medium)
2 colony polyps (small)
bubble tip anemone (big and happy)
2 ocellaris (small)
1 Foxface lo (will move him to FOWLR when he gets big)
cleaner and peppermint shrimp (2X2)
sand shifting star
various cleaner crabs, snails
I'm currently feeding coral every 2 days with Marine Snow (have started using
blender since reading your site) and Liquid Life Marine
Plankton (with Cyclop-eeze). I feed fish every day (mostly flake) and bubble
tip gets stamp sized piece of minced clam every 3 - 4 days,
thawing tank water put back so clowns also get bits of clam. I have no problem
blending or food processing food for these animals.
I have looked at Adam Blundell's excellent article on making reef food and I
will follow a similar recipe (not all the ingredients are
available here) but I will have to freeze into packets about 1/4 thick.
<Good>
While Adam mentions additives, he does not give amounts.
<These are generally on the labels for such... variable per ingredients, batch
sizes>
1. Would it be better to continue to add the Liquid Life separately from the
food I make up?
<Yes>
If so, should I also add DT'S Oyster Eggs to the tank at the same time?
<Could>
2. If I should add them directly to the food mixture, what is the correct
proportion to use? ( I will drop the Marine Snow based on what I have read on
this site.)
<I would... of very little value nutritionally>
3. What vitamins and proportion should I add to the food mix (brands)?
<... See their labels... most are deficient in fat soluble... and thus not much
trouble in terms of potential overdose>
3. I'm a bit worried about water levels - with the present feeding every other
day, I get algae growth on the glass pretty frequently but
water tests OK for nitrates/nitrites. I would like to feed daily with the home
mixture, but what are the guidelines for amounts?
<Overridingly, your personal observations...>
Half a stamp-size thawed, 1/4 thick and LL/DT'S every other day?
<If this works for you>
5. Is the LL with Cyclop-eeze the correct food or should I be using the LL
CoralPlankton - or both? (soft and LPS + mushrooms).
<Again... you will have to experiment, appraise yourself>
6. Other than the obvious water quality degradation signs, what should I watch
for to indicate over-feeding?
<Water clarity, color... the usual nitrate, phosphate accumulation, algae
proliferation...>
Thanks for your assistance.
David
<Don't become overwhelmed here... no need, use to "over-think". Bob Fenner>
Averting disaster (tank repair), coral feeding 2/1/06
WWM Crew,
Today, to my horror, I noticed a couple of air bubbles in the seams connecting
the front panel to the sides of my 75 gallon reef tank. I had
never noticed these bubbles/gaps before, but I was never really looking for them
before. The aquarium is glass and measures 21 inches high x 48 inches
long x 18 inches wide. I have about 2 inches of gravel on the bottom and 60
pounds of live rock. The reef has been running for about 8 months now.
As for the bubbles/gaps in the seam. There are two small bubbles on the left
side (appear as one in the photographs) that account for about half of
the seam's width. On the right side, there is a larger bubble that takes up
about the same space. Both areas are about halfway down the tank. Also, the
gaps come to a very small opening on the outside of the tank. I have included
photographs that show you what I'm talking about. I am concerned that a leak may
not be far off.
<Me too... or worse, a separation of the seam>
I have some suitable silicon (all-glass brand), but I feel that application will
be difficult if not impossible, as the outside openings are the size of a pin
hole.
Should I try applying silicon with a small pin?
<Definitely not, no>
Also, should I try to remove some of the silicon on the outside to make
application easier, or is this to risky for starting a leak?
<Correct. Do NOT do this>
Or, am I possibly out of my league....do I need to call a professional or in the
worst case get a new tank?
<You can likely effect a repair, resealing, but this requires taking the tank
down entirely>
Any help you can give me is very appreciated!
Also, with the help of your site, I have realized the need for feeding my corals
and am about to start a regimen. I just would like to make sure
that I am getting everything right. I have three SPS corals: one 3.5 inch
Acropora gomezi, one 1.5 inch Acropora tortuosa, and a 5 inch Stylophora
pistilla with a commensal crab. The polyps on these corals are out for most/all
of the day, so I assume I should feed them during the day. From
your articles, I understood that I should feed these SPS corals zooplankton once
or twice a week and that I don't need to supplement with phytoplankton.
<Mmm, this is a matter of dispute... offering a mix of single celled algae is to
be advised IMO>
I plan on using "Sweetwater zooplankton". Will this be enough or should I
vary/add more to the diet?
<More diverse>
I also have 2 Platygyra, one that is about five inches in diameter. I have been
feeding my fish frozen "Brine shrimp plus" by Ocean Nutrition and
frozen Mysis shrimp. I plan on feeding these to my LPSs, as well as a couple of
blue Ricordeas, three to five times a week. The polyps on my
large Platygyra are out for part of the day and I have yet to see the polyps on
the smaller specimen, so I plan to feed these corals at this time
of day. I will mince the food and feed with a syringe or turkey baster. I am
not real certain on the anatomy of the Platygyra, however. Can I
place the food anywhere on the coral, or should I be specific/random with
placement?
<On the top, near center... corallites will share>
Also, should I supplement these will zooplankton as well?
<A good idea, yes>
Thanks again for all your help!
Tim
<Do take a read over WWM re Coral Foods/Feeding/Nutrition... You would do well
to read over Calfo's "Book of Coral Propagation" and Borneman's Microcosm title
on Aquarium Corals. Bob Fenner>
Kalkwasser Automation...Coral Feeding - 12/28/05
Hey Crew,
<<Hey Jennifer!>>
Happy Holidays!
<<And to you...>>
My 50 Gallon SPS reef tank is doing well. I dose B-Ionic 2 part DAILY!! I drip ESV Kalk nightly for evaporated water... This has been becoming
difficult, as I am a touring musician.
<<Mmm, you could possibly get by on the drip only...and even do this "'round the
clock"...thus eliminating the need to have to start the drip nightly.>>
Should I get a reactor or Kalk reactor on such a small reef tank, or can you suggest other options so as to minimize the daily maintenance to the system???
<<Maintenance is part of the hobby. Automation can be helpful to a point, but
is no substitute for your own daily observation of the system to ensure all is
well. But saying that, if you have an automated top-off system you could easily
add a Kalk-reactor to facilitate leaving the tank for a couple days at a
time. Anything more than a couple days and I suggest you find/orient someone to
come check on the tank to perform necessary maintenance/feedings...or resetting
that tripped breaker <grin>. >>
Thanks for your time. Also, SPS doing ok, but growing slowly. I understand
many factors are involved. Besides water motion/quality, lighting, what else
helps?? Feeding?
<<Feeding is very important in my opinion.>>
If I feed I get phosphates and brown stuff on the sand. My Phosphates are
generally around .03-.04...
<<Don't be so afraid of a bit of algae that you are depriving your tank by not
feeding. There are measure you can take to limit this (all found on WWM) while
still providing the nutritional requirements of your charges. Very few, if any,
corals are truly and completely autotrophic...SPS corals need to feed...>>
Thanks!
Jennifer NYC
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: Kalkwasser Automation...Coral Feeding - 12/29/05
Hey Eric.
<<Hey Jenna>>
Will my ALK go to high if I drip Kalk all day?
<<Mmm, not so much a concern for Alkalinity as for pH...you will need to
experiment/start out slow until you can determine the maximum you can drip
without boosting your pH too high.>>
If I do, do I still need to dose B Ionic?
<<If you are performing frequent partial water changes (20% bi-weekly) I think
you can do away with the supplements.>>
What should I feed the SPS and clams?
<<Do you have any fish? One of the best foods for SPS corals in my opinion is
the food you feed your fish...after it is processed by the fish. I also like
Cyclop-Eeze (the frozen offering), Selcon, and vitamin supplements (Boyd's is my
fave), as well as the pack juices from the frozen cubed fish foods...though the
latter is feared by some aquarists as rocket fuel for algae growth. Another
food which I have yet to try but hear very good things about are the oyster eggs
offered by DT's.>>
I have gotten so many answers to this question, but I trust you guys!
<<We appreciate the vote of confidence!>>
Thanks,
Jenna
<<Regards, EricR>>
Coral Food and Supplementation
Hello,
I have two questions. Sorry. You guys are very informative and your
website rocks.
1) My question is about supplementation and food for corals and
invertebrates. I have the following animals in my tank.
Corals:
Green Bubble
Candy Cane
Mushroom
Zoos
Kenya tree
Invertebrates
Feather Duster
Hardware
46G Bowfront
30-40 lbs of LR
2 96W PC
Rena Canister Filter
Fluval 404 Filter - with Bio Material only
Aqua C Remora
Internal MaxiJet for additional flow
I have been looking for some good advice at what to feed my corals and
invertebrates. There are about 4 LFS within 30 mile radius from my
house. Each time I go to them for questions they always try to sell me
stuff. Which after reading your site, I realized that I don't really need
them. One of the LFS told me that since I have my skimmer running 24 X
7, I need to constantly replenish my trace elements, thus selling me the
Reef Solution, and Coral Vite solution. As for food, they sold me Krill,
silverside, Marine Snow, Kent Filter feeders. I just had enough from
them. I also went to them with the question of Iodine. I read that
mushrooms needs a supplement of iodine and again they tried to sell be the
Lugo Iodine. Even after I told them that the Reef Solution already
contained Iodine and No, I do not have a test for Iodine yet. I am tired
of going to my LFS store with the feeling of being taken advantage of.
<I can sense this>
After I started going to your website, I stopped asking them questions and
started to go to the LFS knowing already what I need. So could you
please point me to the right direction as to a brand of supplements and
food you recommend?
<... you need, test kits... for whatever it is you believe you're needing to
add... I would get/use something for alkalinity and calcium and leave all else
out here... Along with water changes, careful feeding, you don't need, nor
likely want more.>
I feed my Green bubble coral silverside and chopped
squid. Frogspawn, Zoos, Candy cane, Feather Duster I am not sure that
filter food brand to give.
<Best to add a live sump, aka a refugium to this set-up, and rely on this as a
principal food provider for your filter feeders. Many other benefits as well...>
2) Question
I have a feather duster that lost its crown last week. I have not
removed the tube in fear that the worm may still be alive. At the same
time I am afraid that is the worm is dead then the tube may decomposed in
my tank thus creating a bioload nightmare from hell.
<Not to worry... In a system of your size, make-up, no big deal>
I have hermit crabs
in my tank and the hermit crabs has not jumped on the tube yet. Thus is
my indicator that the tube is still alive. I know that the hermit crabs
will know that the tube is decomposing thus they will try to eat it. I
am I correct with these assumptions? Or should I try to grab the tube to
check if the worm is still alive?
thank you
Louie
<I would leave it as is. Keep reading, chatting with other hobbyists... and
maintaining a skeptical mind... you'll do fine. Bob Fenner>
Feeding Hammer Coral
Hi crew:
I have a question regarding the feeding of a Hammer coral.
I currently have DT's and Mysis shrimp. I feed my perc clown the Mysis.
Do I just add the DT's to my tank and if so, at what time of day. <Anytime once
they are expanded.> I figured I should feed the Mysis in the evening when I see
the feeder tentacles out. These are not feeder tentacles, they are sweeper
tentacles used as a defense mechanism.>
Also, how often should I feed my perc clown? Some suggest small amounts daily and
others say every couple of days. <I feed mine small amounts twice daily. James
(Salty Dog>
Any help is greatly appreciated in this wonderful hobby.
Larry.
Scolymia
I have a Scolymia in my 29 gallon reef aquarium. I have had him for about five months, and he doesn't seem to be acting like he used to. I feed him frozen krill. His mouth opens up when he is hungry, but lately, he is
constantly keeping it open. After I place a creel in his mouth, he does not want to eat it anymore. He looks a lot skinnier in the mouth area than he usually did. He used to be big and plump in the middle.
Some additional products I add to the tank is ChromaPlex, Zooplex, Iodine, Reef Buster, and
PhytoPlex. I also have exceptional lighting
(Coralife light). What can be making the Scolymia act the way he has been lately? Also, are there any other helpful hints I may need to know about the
Scolymia eating habits.
<How large are the krill you're feeding? If you're feeding whole krill, then the animal is probably declining from starvation. Feeding such large portions is unnatural, and is not usually digestible by any
Cnidarian. They engulf it, for sure, but expel it later, and acquire virtually nothing from the food item. Feed small minced portions no larger than 1\4" across, and VARY the diet! Try
Mysis, prepared foods, scallops, fish,
Cyclop-Eeze, etc. Also, soak the food in a HUFA\OMEGA3 supplement such as Selcon>
Thank you,
<You're welcome, and good luck!>
Holly
<M. Maddox>
Tubastrea feeding plan 4 April 2005
Hello Crew,
<Hi Alex, MacL here with you tonight.>
I have a feeding plan that I would like to try on my sun polyp coral! And I want you guys to tall me if It's a good one. I would like to try coral vital and
Cyclop-eeze mixed together with tank water, when the polyps open, with a turkey blaster blow a puff of food into a feeder hat. What do you guys think?
<I think it sounds really nice. I use DT's and Cyclop-eeze the exact same way.>
Tubastraea Feeding follow-up 7 April 2005
Hello one more time MacL <Hey!>
How do I know when my coral has finished eating? (I know kind of a silly
question). Not silly whatsoever, I generally judge it done when all the food
disappears in the cap but I have a friend who leaves him on for an hour and no
longer. His corals are thriving as well. I think you can safely judge by how
fast they eat and by how they respond.> But I want to do this right.
Thanks again!!!
Feeding LPS Corals
Hi gang! At what time and what food should I be feeding my hammer, bubble and elegance corals? For the past 6 days, I've been feeding them very tiny
pieces of fish meat in the morning. I do this every other day. Am I doing the right thing? I've read Anthony's article that they should be given
zooplankton, problem is, LFS here don't sell any except for Sera Premium Plankton Food Tablets. This
fish food claims to contain both phyto and zooplankton, so I bought some today. Since it's in tablet form, I broke off
a very small portion, and gave it to them at around 7:30pm. Strange coz the small broken-off portions dissolved upon contact with water. Is this
sufficient coupled with my fish meat meals? Sorry, don't have the space nor the resources to culture
zooplanktons in a refugium. By the way, I also have some Sera Coraliquid w/ contains: shrimp protein,
Spirulina and Cyclop-Eeze. It says here to slowly add this above the corals through the use of a syringe. Dosage is 5ml/50gals 1x or 2x a week. I've
tried using this last year, and I noticed that it's a very thick, mucus-like liquid. My corals would retract upon contact with it. Do you think I should
be using this again?
<Paul, here is a link that will help you out. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/growingcorals.htm
. James (Salty Dog)>
Thank you so much for all your help.
<You're welcome>
Feeding Large Polyped Corals 4/2/05
Anthony, Thank you so much for the reply. When you say 'target feed', are you talking one of the commercially available feeds, like Phyto-Feast or Liquid Life BioPlankton, or something different?
<None of the above for your Acanthastrea. This Mussid- like Faviid polyps/corals are voracious consumers of ZOOplankton. Seek fine meaty foods instead. Nothing larger than
Mysid shrimp. Better yet... DTs Natural Diet (Oyster eggs), flying fish eggs from the Asian grocery section (masago sushi eggs)... and Cyclop-eeze for starters>
Sorry for the additional question, I just want to make sure I do this correctly. I love the Acan frag, and since you are having stellar success, I'd like to mimic your feed.
<It really is just a hardy coral. And not rare at all. Exports for it out of the South Pacific are pegged at 1000
pc.s. For perspective... so are common Caulastrea candy corals (1000 pc.s). Some very nefarious merchants (mostly basement frag traders) have made a brilliant advertising blitz and are
literally price gouging aquarists for extreme amounts of money per polyp when the coral enters the country with numerous other common corals for mere dollars for large colonies>
Secondly, I am very proud of my collection of signed reef books. I have one from Mr. Fenner, among others. I have your invert book, and your coral propagation book. Is there a chance I could pay shipping both ways and send it to you for an autograph? You'd join the likes of Rich Pyle, Jack Randall, Jerry Allen, etc. Thanks again, Brandon
<Wow! It would be my honor to do so... but to even save you shipping, do look at my active hobby club visit schedule at readingtrees.com Perhaps there is a town near you? Kindly, Anthony>
Re: Turbinaria peltata
Dear Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I believe we have some confusion. I constantly have
to add buffer to maintain my tank at the normal to high level as per my Red
Sea Test Kit. This kit only gives a general low/normal/high coloration
scale. No numerical values are given. I try to keep it at the high normal
to low high reading. According to my LFS, this is about 10/12 DKH.
My thoughts were as follows.
Three things to affect the corals' current condition.
Food - Since I am feeding a mixture of products at three to four times per
week and it readily accepts whatever I feed it, I have eliminated this as
the causation. More on this below.
Lighting - I only had 100 watts of light previously. My feeling was that
maybe this may be the reason for the receding tissue. I had wanted to
upgrade my lighting, so I purchased a 260 watt Coralife unit.
<This by itself will "do it"... burn the specimen as you sent in the pic>
Water Flow - I only have the Emperor 400 on this half of the tank. It
produces a slight waving of the polyps. I have a HOT Magnum on the other
end of the tank also. It has the swivel head on the exit and I switch it
from one side to the other at least two/three times per day to get some
random turbulence. I was thinking of adding another power head to the
lower portion of the tank on this side also. However, I want to see if the
lights make an improvement. Changing too many things at one time increases
the number of variables. No way of knowing what actually helped.
<I agree>
More questions on Coral Feeding:
After months of reading WetWebMedia, CMA and Reef Invertebrates, I have
some questions of coral feeding. Please excuse me if I missed it
somewhere.
<Sure>
On plating types of Corals such as this T. peltata that have numerous
polyps, does each and every polyp have to receive nutrition in order to
survive, or is it simply a collection point?
<The latter>
For example, if one area of
the coral receives more nutrition because of flow, location of polyps,
will the polyps that receive the most nutrition feed the entire colony and
will the area that does not receive as much food gradually recede away or
not plate in that general area. For example, the area that the tissue is
receding is on the back side of the coral and it is difficult to target
feed.
I pose the same question regarding the LPS corals such as the Mussidae
corals. Will the polyps that do not receive as much nutrition die in that
general area, or will the polyps that receive the most nutrition support
the entire colony.
Thanks,
Dean
<Some Dendrophylliids (e.g. Tubastrea) need to have each polyp fed, others share... the mussids inclusive. Bob Fenner>
Coral feeding
I was reading through the site today and discovered the section on feeding corals. I looked on with stupidity because my LFS has always told me that they get everything they need from light.
<It was probably a mistake and it happens.>
I have to admit I am still not sure how to feed my corals. I bought some frozen
Mysis shrimp, but now what? I have never even seen sweeper tentacles. I have a frogspawn a torch, and a xenia, any suggestions as to how I should feed them (turkey baster
method, etc.) or what to feed them (zoo/phytoplankton) is greatly appreciated.
EY
<Hello, well you are on the right track from what I see. Knowledge is power. You should feed based on the needs of your corals. The frogspawn, and torch will probably take the
Mysis depending on size. The best time to feed them is at night using the
baster method. The xenia will take the phytoplankton. I want you to remember this. Although you should be feeding your corals, a big
beginner mistake is to over feed them when they first start. Start feeding little amounts and work your way from there. Good Luck. MikeB.>
Reef Chili, food product
Hello WWM Crew,
I saw this product http://www.reefchili.com
on eBay and the feedback was very positive. I was wondering what you thought of it?
Thank you.
<Neat site! Some plug for Photoshop now! Looks to be pretty straightforward, made of "good components"... Have NOT used this, but is likely fine for many "types" of corals (of the polyglot of
Scleractinia, even hydrozoan groups called this) used by hobbyists... The usual qualifying statement re some coral groups/species being largely photosynthetic, others eating larger prey (e.g. Tubastrea)... Bob Fenner>
Re: Coral Chili food
Thank you Mr. Fenner for the fast response. I will perhaps try some!
Thanks.
<Please do send along your impressions. Bob Fenner>
Feeding Turbinaria
Dear Crew
< Hi >
I have had a Turbinaria in my tank for some time now (12 weeks). In all this time its polyps are just coming out but never fully. I have a calcium reactor and my water
parameters are as follows
pH 8.4
mg 1100
Calcium 440
phosphates 0.08
hardness 12 DKH
Lighting 3 60W fluorescents
1 actinic blue (60W)
1 T5 lamp (80W) on for 12 hours
The coral is placed 6ins from the top in medium flow.
I have started to offer meat juice and phyto to this coral at lights out on a daily basis to no avail. The polyps remain retracted. Before this
I was offering zooplankton and phyto twice a week. Any ideas as to what maybe going wrong? Could the coral be laying down deposits and not ready for feeding??
< Possible. I almost wonder if it would do even better tucked away down lower under a ledge. I know that the "sun polyp goddess" uses a long straw to feed her Turbinaria frozen brine shrimp. Maybe try that. Otherwise, keep good water chemistry and wait it out. >
PS I regularly dose daily with iodine and strontium too. Any help greatly appreciated.
< Blundell >
Feeding Turbinaria continued
Thanks for the info I have moved the coral to midway down my tank, still in medium flow over a branch rock overhang. I am keeping my calcium at a constant 440ppm with
Kalkwasser additions to see if that will coax the polyps out to feed. Not to question you chaps but the coral is a
Turbinaria sp, not Tubastrea the non photosynthetic species I have.
< Very similar requirements and feeding for these corals. I think the lower light, overhang, with food is my advice. >
I believe Turbinaria is a wide ranging photosynthetic species, which tolerates a wide range of spectrums.
< Yes it does. I think (and I could certainly be wrong) that it will be more likely to actively feed if it can't get all its energy needs from light. >
Does the polyp extension need to be a common feature with this coral day to day?
< Surprisingly this coral will open for a few days, then stay closed up for a few days. I don't really understand that. >
I will keep you posted on events. I am trying feeding during the day, at lights out and just before lights out. Any further info appreciated
< Well here is my other thought. I wouldn't worry about it. If it doesn't open up, oh well. I think it can and will do fine with healthy water regardless of its amount of feeding. >
< Blundell >
Shriveling and ballooning Bubble Anemone in a tiny tank, Marine Snow
Hi there--
<Howdy>
I've been in the fishkeeping hobby for about 15 years, and finally jumped into
salt a year ago. I now have a 20 gallon tank with about 20 lbs of live rock, a
cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp, and camel shrimp, a black/white damsel, and a blue
damsel. I also have a bit of pumping xenia, star polyps, and green mushrooms.
Recently, I acquired a rose bubble anemone from a pet store. it had just
recently divided, and seemed to be healthy (albeit ratty-looking). It's been in
the tank for about 2 days now, and just keeps shifting shapes. It moved about 6
inches, and is now at mid-tank height. It goes from a loose, spread-out look to
being almost folded on itself, but most recently has been looking terrifyingly
desiccated. It shrivels down to almost nothing, and the bubbles deflate into
little raisins. I called the pet store and asked for some advice, and I have
turned off my powerheads (already done), but also turned off the 10,000k
daylight because I was told it might be irritating it. (I also have a 50/50
light on the aquarium--65watt actinic, 65 watt daylight). It's been about 2
hours since I turned off the light and the bubbles have re-inflated and the
anemone looks fuller and less death-like, but is still sloppy looking, and I
worry if it's being stressed by something.
<It is... from just being moved... being in a very small, variable system (due
to volume)... though this is about the best of large anemone species for
aquarium use, AND it's great to have a cultured individual to start with... Most
all the behavior you so well describe is to be expected... but these animals are
exceedingly hard to keep in little tanks... as you will learn>
I fed the tank with Marine Snow the other day, but I don't know if I should be
feeding the anemone shrimp right now or not...
<This product... is a sham... it's the "Emperor's new fish food"... of
exceedingly little to no nutritive value><Please see:
http://www.reefs.org/library/article/harker_toonen.html>
any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, because I really
don't know what I should do! Thanks for the help--you guys are really great.
<I do: read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm scroll down to the
area re Anemones... go over their systems, feeding... Bob Fenner>>
My water composition is pretty good too-- 0ppm ammonia, 0ppm nitrite, 10ppm
nitrate, specific gravity of 1.021, pH of about 8.2. Thanks! Bryan R
Monti Feeding
Hello Bob and Crew:
I was looking for your advice for target feeding my only SPS a Montipora
capricornis (my favorite). I lost a Hydnophora. I do not want to get into a
refugium so I have been direct feeding ESV's Phytoplanton and Daphnia. I have
been considering Cyclop-eeze, is that too big? I tried to find liquid life's
CoralPlankton but it's not anywhere (LFS) and I do not want to pay $25. for
overnight shipping. I would appreciate any suggestions, I love this coral and
want to do all I can (besides refugium).<Rich, I've heard a lot of good things
about Cyclop-eeze. I am using it at the present time, mainly for my
Percs, but
my soft coral sure seems to be looking better since I've been using this. Other
product that is good for this is DT's Phytoplankton. You might call around in
your area for this, otherwise you will have to order direct from DT. They tell
me if you keep it refrigerated it has a shelf life close to six months. Keep in
mind this is live phytoplankton. I don't think DT would charge you 25 bucks to
send it to you, just normal UPS charges unless you want it overnight. I
wouldn't worry about the Monti while waiting since corals do produce most of
their own food. James (Salty Dog>
Thanks for the help!
Rich
Funny mushroom tentacles and feeding candy corals
Hi
I just set up a 26 gal reef tank about a month ago. I went to my LFS and
purchased a small mushroom coral and a small red mushroom which was attached to
a very small candy coral. Now the mushroom coral is doing ok and the little red
mushroom looks good, but it appears to have some tentacles growing from
underneath it!? << On a mushroom? I wonder if it is spreading skin to
propagate. >> The tentacles are very thin white strands with a little black
spot on each strand. Is this part of the mushroom or a bonus critter that
hitchhiked with him?? With my horrible description is there any chance that you
know what it is?? << Well it isn't anything to worry about. Do the strands
move? If so I'll say it is a hitchhiker, if not then I'll say it is part of the
coral. >> My last question is I read that I should feed the candy coral a few
times a week but I have a lot of little white bugs in the tank (copepods maybe??)
would this be food for the candy or what could I feed it?? << Well mainly feed
it lots of light. I don't think micro shrimp will be consumed by candy corals,
I think something like phytoplankton and Cyclop-Eeze are a better choice. >> Ok I
lied one more question should I only feed the candy at night when its tentacle
like things are out?? << I would feed it during the day. It will get use to it
and often times extend tentacles during the day. >> Thanks so much for all your
help!!
Tammy
Feeding sun polyps
Hope you guys and girls get this, having some problems getting through to
you. I bought a sun polyp from my LFS, they forgot to tell me how difficult
feeding this beautiful invert is (should have done some research). What I did
was cut the bottom out of a margarine tub and when he comes out (usually 30
minutes after lights out) I place the tub over the animal and squirt zoo
plankton inside the tub and every polyp eats. << Good idea. >> I was worried
about too many nutrients flooding the entire tank, but this works great for me
and the sun polyp. This has got to be one of the most beautiful inverts that I
have seen. I thought you might want to pass this on to others and it could help
with the flooding of food while feeding these creatures. << Will share this
info, thanks. >>
Thanks Jerry S.
<< Blundell >>
Tubastrea sun polyp feeding/dying 11/28/04
My little sun polyps are coming out to feed easily now, but the pale orange
one does better than the red-orange one. The area around the red-orange one is
turning white (with two of the
little polyps completely gone...
<clearly sounds like those polyps are starving... need more food or the right
kind/size of food. Do try/use Cyclop-eeze as a primary staple... really
outstanding for these corals>
that was an area pushed up against the sand where they could not feed),
<move the coral my friend or make a feeding hat (do a keyword search for
"Tubastrea feeding hat")>
but I am concerned about the rest of the polyps because many of them seem to
have this white (it's hard) stuff around them.
Is the entire coral dying?
<the white is starving polyps/bleached>
If so, what did I do wrong?
<you can save these polyps in mere months with resumed feeding>
Alexandra
Re: question about sun polyp
Thank you so much for your help with my little sun polyps.
<Anthony is out...>
I have moved them to a little cube tank by themselves and am feeding
them with the filter off.
<Good>
I have one more question if you don't mind.
I am feeding them a mixture of frozen Cyclop-eeze mixed with
phytoplankton and they seem to love it. I am using an eye dropper and
squirting it right on top of each polyp.
<Okay>
How often should I feed them since they were starving and want to save
them?
<About every other day is fine. This predaceous coral does not need that much
actual food, and it's best to be on guard re the possibility of the ill-effects
of overfeeding. Bob Fenner>
Thanks
Alexandra
Long Tentacle Plate Feeding 11/27/04
I recently heard of a long tentacle plate coral eating a Coris Wrasse. Is
this possible? Thanks for the reply. Sam Reef
<I find this very unlikely. My understanding is that Gut studies of long
tentacle plate corals show tiny plankton, not large prey. Hope this
helps. AdamC.>
Corals feeding - nanoplankton? 11/26/04
Thanks again Anthony, I almost feel silly asking. But I'm going to do it
anyway. Is there enough Nanoplankton in my tank without adding any. The soft
corals seem to be doing
very well and multiplying.
<no worries... a very good question. Its tough to answer though. While I am sure
your tank like nearly all does not produce enough (much of any really)
nanoplankton, there are enough soft corals that require so very little
organismal feeding that a decent fish load and good quality lights will be
enough to keep them. Sarcophytons and Xenia are two prime examples. Anthony>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corlfeeding.htm (page missing?)
Is there supposed to be an article under the header on this page?
<Mmm, yes... as in there is no article written and placed as yet... AnthonyC and
I are not up to this area in a series of books yet... In the meanwhile there are
pertinent FAQs to be placed...>
Appreciate all your advice to folks!
John
<Thank you. Bob Fenner>
LPS, feeding, lighting, water
You probably get these questions all the time (and I did check the
archives), but I have a couple of questions about LPS corals: First off,
I never knew that these things were so cool. Didn't even know that
they
existed and then in the last month we have purchased a slipper coral,
open brain, and a rather large "meat" coral.
<What a planet, eh? I'm not leaving!>
The fish store guys swear
that they are "easy" to keep and from what I am reading, I tend to
believe them. So anyway, we noticed that that are very carnivorous
and
will eat anytime they are offered food. We usually offer small pieces
of cut up shrimp, about the size of a match head, and then stand back to
watch the fun (morbid fascination - probably goes back to the boa that I
kept in high school). So the question is how much is too much meaty
food?
<Feeding to satiation more than two, three times a week is not a good idea...
these animals don't need it, and leads to induced wastes problems>
The recommendations in the archives say that as long as water
quality is maintained, you can feed quite a lot of food to these
creatures. But we have great water quality thus far and use several
brands of test kits religiously every week to check it. Ammonia,
nitrate,
nitrite, and phosphate are always zero. How big should the food
pieces
be?
<What you state is fine>
The meat coral looks like he could eat something the size of a
chicken wing. Obviously that would be too big. I am
thinking more like
pea-sized pieces (something just big enough to grab with tongs or
fingers).
<Smaller>
What about blenderized food?
Do you just make a sea-food
smoothie?
<Mmm, not suggested... too much liquid, nutrient gets into the water... if
finely cut, it's recommended to rinse (in a net, under the sink tap) the food to
remove the "juice">
Can you point me to a good recipe?
<Likely in the archives under marine food/feeding: http://wetwebmedia.com/feeding.htm
(linked in blue, at top), or a book by moi, The Conscientious Marine
Aquarist>
I assume that the finely
divided stuff is easier to for the coral to handle, but it kind of takes
away from the fun of hand feeding larger pieces of food. Lighting? We
have 2 x 65 watt 10,000K and 2 x 65 watt actinic in a PC hood over a
75-gallon tank. Is that good enough?
<Wattage, intensity-wise, just barely... understand that stony corals have a
wide range and good-sized adaptability to deriving their nutrition from
photosynthesis and non-photosynthetic sources... other species, the
generally-labeled SPS corals as the genus Acropora require more intense
lighting... some Dendrophylliids like the genus Tubastrea, hardly any at all>
Livestock = 2 Percula Clowns, 2
Banggai (sp?) Cardinals, 1 lawnmower blenny, 2 cleaner shrimp, 1 brittle
star, and lots of hermit crabs and snails. 1 Royal Gramma and 1 small
I-forgot-what-it-is called neon magenta colored fish (fish guy said it
was small, safe, and colorful) in quarantine tank. Tank Stats:75-gallon
display40-gallon sump20-gallon refugium90 pounds LR Big Protein
Skimmer moderate flow (7 to 8 turnovers per hour in main tank) thanks,
Paul and Judy in Kansas
<Bob Fenner>
Coral feeding 11/21/04
Hey Anthony, After reading the section here and your book "Coral
Propagation". (My favorite book a must read for all)
<ah, thanks kindly!>
I have made up a batch of food for my corals: Fresh seafood, Nori, marine flake,
baby brine, Selcon all blended together and frozen. I have mainly soft ,
Gorgonians & candy cane corals.
<very thoughtful to make the mix, but few soft corals can eat large particles
as with homemade food... the gorgonians the same (needing nanoplankton). Only
the candy corals (Caulastrea) listed above can eat the mix>
The tank is a 90 gallon with 3/4" of live sand (No DSB or refugium...sorry)
About 125lbs of live rock. I seem to see more feeding tentacles when the lights
go out (Unfortunately this is very late at night because I'm trying to kick
start Coralline growth. I just switched to Deionized (sp?) water for make up and
water changes) Do you think it would be a good idea to set up a drip using my
prepared food ?(taking the larger pieces out)
Thanks again!
<I do believe the nature of the mix and ingredients overall is very well
suited for larger polyped stony corals and anemones, but not for soft corals and
gorgonians. Feed this sparingly in your tank if only for another DOC source
assuming you do not already have nuisance algae problems. kindly, Anthony>
Can I feed my brain too much?
Hi there-
May I say again how much I love your site?
<Sure!...and Thanks!>
I really appreciate the
resource. I actually have five questions for you. My tank is about 5
months old, 46 gallon, protein skimmer, Eheim filter, halite lights. I do
weekly 10% water changes. Ammon, nitrates, and nitrites are 0, salinity is
1.024. I have two perculas, one magenta Dottyback (eats my little
Bristleworms, by the way), a cleaner shrimp, and various blue-legged hermits
and snails. I have a frogspawn and a hammer and a brain and some star
polyps. They have all seemed to have adjusted well, and colors and extension
are good, and they have all grown a little bit. Here are my questions:
1) My brain coral is a pig. I feed the corals Mysis shrimp weekly, and I'm
not sure how much the brain would eat at one sitting. It is about 4" in
diameter, and I give it about a dozen shrimp. Should I keep feeding until
it stops engulfing? It is growing the most.
<I would err on the side of caution here, and underfeed. If it's growing, it's
happy, and overfeeding can pollute your tank.>
2) I had not been feeding my star polyp shrimp because I thought it was a
vegetarian. I accidentally dropped one on it a week ago, and it snatched it
up, so I gave it about 3 more. Now it doesn't look so perky. Did I make it
sick?
<Doubtful. GSPs go through cycles of closing up for no apparent reason
sometimes. If it stays closed up for long, then start to worry.>
3) My cleaner shrimp has molted 4 times in two months. Is this bad for its
health?
<Not at all. Good sign that it's growing and thriving.>
I do supplement with iodine and the calcium level is about 600
(high, I know. Trying to solve) Should I be doing anything else for it?
It eats like a pig, too. I thought these guys were supposed to by shy...
<The iodine addition is completely unnecessary IME, but it could be helping. If
paired with another shrimp these guys can molt as often as two weeks after they
spawn. Just need to feed them well.>
4) The tank has developed a bad hairy algae problem. Do I have room to add
something that would eat it, and if so, what would you recommend?
<Rather than adding something to consume it, consider fixing the root of the
problem--nutrients in your water. Do you use RO/DI for top off and water
changes? What size skimmer do you have? Are you overfeeding?>
5) My tank evaporates almost 2 gallons a day (probably because of the hot
lights). Does this replacement water count towards water changes, by
chance?
<Nope. Are you adding any type of calcium/alkalinity supplement?>
Thanks again. By the way, my frog spawn continues to excrete brown goo
after shrimp feeding day. (I asked earlier if it was coral excrement) It
seems to be doing really well, too. My perculas have started to host with
it.
<Possibly 'coral poo', yes.>
--Jill
<Cheers, Matt>
Circulation Query
I read all 7 Circulation FAQs (amongst many, many others), and found a
few that were close to my setup, but I could use a little reassurance
(My reef seems to teeter totter on the edge of destruction, or at least
my fear is that). This site is a wealth of knowledge, and the whole
crew's reposes are a joy to read and a good smile! Please comment on any
spots you see I need improvement.
I have a 37g (30x12x22) with 45lbs Fiji rock, CC substrate, 3 Spotted
Cardinals, 1 yellow goby, Emerald Crab, Arrow Crab, assortment of
snails/hermits, a green brain (on the substrate) and a Hammer coral (on
the top 3rd of the rock). In addition I have a mechanical filter that I
run only when needed (320gph), an internal Berlin 60 protein skimmer,
and 65wPC 10000k/Actinic combo. I read much about circulation, and so I
picked up 2 maxi-jet 1200s yesterday and placed them in apposing corners
to up the flow ante. I have them apposing, and seems to create a nice
random chaotic flow on the hammer. It is not being beat down, but it
gets a good whiff every 10-15 seconds. The Brain also seems to jiggle on
occasion.
But WOW with almost 16x turnover, this tank looks like Hurricane season
in the tropics (Which has been accurate for this year). The fish have
been pretty wide eyed since I placed the new power heads into battle. I
assume they will adjust, but for this small of a tank, am I asking for
trouble? Seems like feeding with that much circulation would be
un-doable; I guess I should cut them off at feeding time?
Also please, any tips on methods and times for feeding the Brain coral
and the Hammer (I've been dosing DT). What do I look for? The brain
seems to have shrunk in size. I placed a piece of raw shrimp on one of
the mouths of the brain, but it didn't do anything with it. As for the
Hammer, where and when do I feed it?
Be chatting, ;)
Billy
Dallas, TX
>>>Hello Billy,
I'm a bit confused. On one hand you say your hammer coral isn't being "hammered"
by the current, and on the other hand you compare it to a hurricane? The bottom
line is that if your tank inhabitants are not being stressed, it's not too much
current. I'm not in front of your tank observing things, so only you can make
this call. Euphyllia (hammers, torches, frogspawns) do not like strong, direct
current. You will get better polyp extension in mild currents. If it's tentacles
are half retracted, it's too much.
Fish are usually not an issue in this area, although there are exceptions.
Euphyllia will take direct feedings, but you have to experiment with food types.
Some will take silversides, other's will not. Some will take shrimp, etc. Just
drop the food item in the tentacles once a week or so. They don't eat phyto.
Cheers
Jim<<<
Hungry SPS corals 9/20/04
We have a 120g ecosystem reef tank that has numerous soft and stony corals
with ample room for all to grow.
<Hmmm... OK. But do resist the temptation of mixing unnatural species in garden
reef aquaria. Better to focus on niches, themes or biotopes for
The lighting consists of two 250w metal halides with two 96w pc actinics. We
supplement with bionic two part calcium solutions with weekly additions of
iodine and strontium. We consistently run poly bio pads with PhosBan to keep
phosphates to a near undetectable level. All of the corals and clams are growing
at a fast rate and look healthy but occasional one of our SPS corals just bleach
out and die. What could be some possible causes especially when the corals had
been thriving before their demise and what should we do.
<lack of adequate nutrition is a common cause here... SPS cannot be fed much/any
prepared foods (particle size is too large). And so... if you have zero
nitrates, no sand stirring of a DSB and no large mature refugium... then you
have little feeding opportunities for them. They typically hang in for some
months... even a year or two... then finally starve to death>
We haven't introduced any new animals for at least 6 months. The tanks
parameters were recently checked with the following results:
ph 8.1
phosphates 0.00 ( Salifert test kit)
calcium 480
Alkalinity 7.5
nitrates 0.5
Thanks for your help
<your CA. ALK dynamic is scary skewed... that Ca should be a lot closer to 400
for safe keeping and the ALK should be in the 2-12 dKH range. Do a large water
change to dilute this skew and then resume a balanced dosing of your two-part
mix. And get thee to a refugium <G>. Anthony>
Bubble Coral feeding
I've recently added to my aquarium a bubble coral. My question is how to
feed it? I was told once a day to feed it phytoplankton 1tsp per 15 gallons of
water (my tank is 20 gallons). <I personally think that's a bit much. Would
probable do it ever other day or so.> The way I administer the
food is pouring the 1tsp in the tank around 5 or 6pm just below the filter so
the phytoplankton will flow out.
Am I feeding the right thing? <They can also eat a larger piece of meat, so
you could add something a bit larger occasionally directly to it.>
Should I feed at a different time?
Am I administering the food correctly (under the filter)? <As long as the
flow goes directly to the coral should be fine so it gets some of the food. Good
luck, MacL>
Coral Husbandry - Book Referrals 7/18/04
Dear crew!
<cheers>
We are dealing with the animal husbandry and we've a lot of problems. Recently
we purchased two unidentified gorgonians . The first one forms a bushy red
colony with white polyps & thorn-like cups,25 cm tall. The second one is a
tree-like brown colony with blue polyps 15 cm. tall. We assume that they are
Muriceopsis flavida & Eunicea succinea, but we are far from to be sure.
<sadly... these are both azooxanthellate species and as such are very
difficult to keep alive in captivity. The prognosis for success is a matter of
months, not years in captivity likely... and really a matter of slow
attrition>
Could you send an identification key?
<do consult the fine works of Fabricius and Alderslade (2001) "Soft
Corals and Sea Fans" for example. Published in Australia, it is distributed
worldwide.>
Both they were in the quarantine about 2 month. Now they
are melting, Their polyps are closed, & in the second
species the tips of branches are shrinking. May this be a melting
consequence?
<this is very common with azooxanthellate species. Most really should not be
collected or used for casual aquarium keeping. The problem is that for many we
do not even know exactly what they eat... and for others, its a matter of not
being able to adequately culture their desired prey (bacteria, floc, larvae,
eggs, etc)>
Could you also inform us about the hydrochemistry, in
particular, Ca, Sr, Mg and the with the other Cnidaria.
P. s. What do your think about the following livestock: 1 Euphyllia glabrescens
(diameter (d)=10 cm),
<a very hardy scleractinian... do feed this animal finely minced meaty foods
of marine origin 3-5 times weekly in a slurry of aquarium water. They need
moderately bright light... around 5 watts per gallon of 10,000 Kelvin
illumination>
1 Sinularia sp. (25 cm. tall),
<does not feed organismally (by prepared foods) but is likely hardy. Favors
the same or brighter light as above and perhaps warmer colored light (closer to
6500 Kelvin)>
3 specimens of Alcyonium sp.(50 cm tall),
<do check the ID of this animal... last I heard, this genus was shaken up and
all valid Alcyonium only reside in temperate waters. If you have a tropical
"Alcyonium" it may be a Klyxum (branching, arborescent) or Cladiella
(nappy/bushy)>
1 Galaxea sp. (d=5 cm.),
<similar care as E. glabrescens above>
1 sphaeric colony of Goniopora (d=15 cm),
<this genera on the whole has a dismal rate of survival in captivity. Unless
you have a free-living species (Like G. stokesii), this coral is not likely to
see 6 months. Best left in the ocean>
1 colony of Cladiella sp. (25 cm. tall), 4 specimens of Sarcophyton sp.(2x20, 15
& 10 cm),2 specimens of Lobophyton sp. (25 & 20 cm tall)&
<the above three are also similar in care to the Sinularia mentioned
above>
2 colonies of the gorgonians mentioned in 250 gal aquarium (assuming that all
the other factors are normal one)?
Best regards, Interzoo, Odessa
<my apologies, I do not know your skill level or experience, but do consider
some cnidarian husbandry books like Eric Borneman's "Aquarium Corals"
or my "Book of Coral Propagation". Sincerely, Anthony Calfo>
Feeding Tubastraea
Good morning, <Good evening Alex>
I got one of these corals and I was wondering, I'm feeding it outside of the
tank in a plastic cup. How long should it be in that cup, he feeds really
slow??? <I would really be concerned about taking him out of the tank to feed
him. If nothing else after an amount of time you would get temperature
fluctuation.> I fed him yesterday for the first time and he was still eating
after 20 min, then I put him in the tank with a feeding hat (cool idea I got
from your web site)<Good to know it helped.> I didn't want my fish to eat
his food, 4 hrs later he had finished. I do not know how long should he be out
from the tank. I have him in side the tank under some live rock. He has some
light but not to much. Does he need to be in total darkness??? <It does not
need to be in darkness or sunlight, since it's non-photosynthetic. It
really wouldn't respond any different to either situation. I have mine located
at the front of the tank so I can check for polyp extension. Good luck, MacL>
Thanks
Tubastraea coral, again.
Hello again, <Hi again Alex>
I'm sorry, but I'm new on this coral. <Not a problem that's what I'm here
for.> When you meant polyp extension that means they only open when there
hungry???<I generally feed to get the polyp extensions and yes when I see
polyp extension on mine I try to feed it. It responds then when I can see it.
And I know it gets all the food. I also try to feed each polyp individually.> And
how many times do you feed yours a week??? <Probably 5 times a
week.> Thank you so much. <I hope I have helped you with this. I'd
like to recommend Anthony Calfo's Coral Reef Propagation book and Eric
Borneman's Aquarium Corals. They are such amazing reference books.>
Coral feeding 6/14/04
Hi guys hey if my coral is a zooplankton feeder can I just feed it mushed
Mysis shrimp or do I still need to get a zooplankton food for it? Is this ok as
a staple or should I aim for more variety?
<Depends on the coral. Please write back and let me know exactly what coral you
are talking about. As a general rule, the size of the polyps is a good
indicator. Larger polyps can accept larger food (although this is not
universally true). Best Regards. Adam>
Coral feeding 6/15/04
Adam or whoever else my coral is some kind of brain coral I think, collected it
myself. Has tan/brown ridges in a maze pattern, with in between valleys being
fluoro green. When ridges open the polyps are about 5mm in length and maybe
1.5mm in diameter. When I feed it mushed Mysis shrimp it seems to expand and
close around them so the green valleys disappear and the brown ridges are all
soft and greatly expanded and polyps have gone again. So should I just maintain
this once a day or does it need other variety of zooplankton as well? << I
believe that a variety is very important. I would use something like Cyclops
shrimp or rotifers weekly. >> Or anything else, other than calcium supplements?
<< In addition to calcium supplements, please check and watch your
alkalinity. That is every bit as important. >>
<< Adam Blundell >>
Coral names, questions 6/1/04
I have a couple questions and can't find the answers in your FAQs. The
first one: I have read about open brains and different scientific names. I
have a Wellsophyllia; is this an open brain?
<yes... but that scientific name is not valid anymore. All such brains are
Trachyphyllia, a monospecific genus>
Also, does my Wellsophyllia need to be fed, and if so what?
<yes, feed finely minced meats of marine origin weekly or more often. Whole
foods like Mysid shrimp and pacific plankton from your pet stores freezer are
also quite good>
Another quick question. What do you recommend to feed Fungia and what
do you find to be the best method.
<the same as above... and feed all such LPS corals by adding a little bit of
food or juice to the tank 15 minutes prior to feeding to stimulate a feeding
(tentacle) response>
Do frogspawn need to be fed as well or is good lighting sufficient (i have 1 250
watt metal halide and two 36 watt actinic bulbs in a 75 gallon corner tank).
<they also need fed, like most all large polyped corals. They have these
large polyps for a reason! Form follows function as they say. As a rule, most
corals need to be target fed unless the fish/feeding load otherwise is very heavy
(rare)>
Thanks!! Andrew
<best regards, Anthony>
Coralline Algae Growth
Hello Crew!
<Hello, Ryan with you today>
Just can't seem to find the answer to these in the FAQ's
(sometimes TOO MUCH good information to find a specific
question). <I know! It's a bit overwhelming at times>
1. I have an open brain coral that I feed meaty treats
(shrimp, clam, squid) 3 times per week. I noticed that
it has 3 mouth-like structures that I put the food
directly into and it gets sucked in. I have to stand
guard else my ever hungry clowns will snatch the food
up. Is it necessary to feed each mouth? Can I just
feed one or two of them and the nutrients will get
shared to the entire organism? The third is a little
hard to see/reach and this direct feeding method is the
only way I have found to feed it without others in the
tank (clowns, shrimp) snatching the food for themselves.
<The more each mouth eats, the better the entire colony will
grow. Corals grow in a very deliberate way; To make the most of a
certain environment. This said, I would either move the brain so that
you can feed the entire thing, or make the extra effort. As for
snatching, it's highly frustrating. Will a fish feeding just before
will keep them distracted long enough?>
2. On my live rock, I have tons of coralline algae
growing. Colors of purple, maroon, red, green and pink.
On my glass, pumps and base rock (Tufa), I only have
one shade of purple growing. I would really like a mix
of colors. Any ideas on how to encourage this process
or why only one is spreading from the live rock to other
areas?
<One is outperforming the others at this given time. What's your
calcium level? Some varieties of coralline won't grow unless high
calcium levels are met. It's just a matter of luck, time and
patience. Perhaps you could graft the variety you like to unclaimed
territory before the more aggressive types have the opportunity?>
Thanks a lot. You guys are a real credit to the hobby
and I would be lost without you (or it least I would not
have such a wonderful tank). <Great to hear! Hope this helps, and
good luck- Ryan>
-Ray
Coral questions
Hi,
<Graham at your service.>
I have a couple questions and can't find the answers in your FAQs. The
first one: I have read about open brains and different scientific names. I
have a Wellsophyllia; is this an open brain?
<Yes. Most likely your brain coral is in the genus Trachyphyllia.>
Also, does my Wellsophyllia need to be fed, and if so what?
<The Brain coral will benefit from regular feedings, however, it's not
needed. If you wish to feed your coral, you can try to feed the coral at night
when its feeder tentacles are out. Once these tentacles are out, you can place
several small pieces of krill within these tentacles and the brain should
consume the food. Silversides and lancefish may also work.>
Another quick question. What do you recommend to feed Fungia and what
do you find to be the best method.
<If you feed your fish regularly, most likely the plate will be catching food
particles. You can also place small pieces of meaty foods (krill, silversides,
squid, etc.) <<How small is small? RMF>> within the plates tentacles. The tentacles should then push the
food towards the central mouth where the food is then consumed.>
Do frogspawn need to be fed as well or is good lighting sufficient (i have 1 250
watt metal halide and two 36 watt actinic bulbs in a 75 gallon corner tank).
<As I stated above, they will benefit from regular feedings, although it
isn't necessary. If you choose to feed the coral, do so the same as you would as
I described above with the plate coral.>
Thanks!!
<Take Care, Graham!>
Andrew
Coral Chow! (Feeding Corals)
Howdy,
<Hi there! Scott F. here tonight>
I was skimming your FAQs on Fungia and I have a couple questions. I understand that you should feed a
Fungia.
<Yep, they are active feeders>
I add live phytoplankton and that freeze-dried Cyclop-eeze on a regular basis. However, do I need to feed it anything else, and if so, what do you recommend and what is the best method to feed it?
<I like the Cyclop-eeze. I believe that the phytoplankton is less useful to the coral, and I'd stick to zooplankton/zooplankton substitutes, myself>
Also, I heard somewhere that you must feed open brain coral too (Wellsophyllia). Is this true, and if so what do you recommend and what is the best way to feed it (I have one too).
<Yep, you should feed it, and I'd use finely minced foods of marine origin (like clam meat, squid meat, krill,
Mysis, etc.) as the main course. The Cyclop-eeze would also work well.>
Also, does my Wellsophyllia prefer to be on the sand or can it be on a flat rock? Thanks! Andy
<Well, Andy, like Trachyphyllia, Wellsophyllia do best in a soft, sandy substrate, as they can be damaged on rocky
substrates when they expand and contract. Hope this helps! Regards, Scott F.>
Brain Food, and Other Coral Concerns!
Hi Bob!
<Actually, Scott F. in today!>
I have looked thru a lot of your articles, but this problem I couldn't find. It may be me.
<Yeap.. it's you! Hah- just kidding!>
We have a 125 gal. tank with a wet/dry filter, protein skimmer, chiller, and even bought a r/o unit with deionizer. It is a starter reef tank with 120lbs. live Fiji rock, Yellow Tang, 3 Spot Domino, 2 Clarkii Clowns, Yellow Polyps, Orange Button Polyps, Open Brain, Red Mushrooms, one Ricordea, and misc. snails, starfish, crabs, and shrimp.
<Nice mix>
The problem is, our Orange Button Polyp which has tripled its size and is gorgeous has developed white spots on the front part of the cluster. They are only on the "stem" of the polyp. The polyp is still beautiful and shows absolutely no signs of distress, actually it is
still producing polyps. The polyps on the front do stand real tall compared to the others, where the ones on the back make a ball shape. The only time they close is when the lights go off at night. They open readily when the lights come on. All other corals are totally clean. Please help me. We have had this polyp for 6 months and it is my favorite.
<Hard to be 100 % certain. Possibly just a migration of pigment, but it could be anything from flatworms to some other pest, too. If the coral is otherwise reacting well, and appears healthy, I would not be too concerned at this point. Just observe carefully and let us know if you notice a decline in the coral's health at any point>
I know I am being a pain, but could you also tell me the best thing to feed our Brain Coral and amount. Everyone I talk to disagrees and I haven't had much luck with the internet or books.
Thank you sooooo much!!!
Julie
<You're NOT a pain, Julie! As far as feeding the Brain Coral is concerned, I'd use fine zooplankton-based foodstuffs, such as minced
Mysis, krill, or other "meaty" foods. The newly-available frozen "Cyclop-eeze" is a great food for these species! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Tubastrea Feeding Tips
hey guys,
<Hi! Ryan with you today>
Thanks for all the help in the past it's helped myself and many others out tremendously. <Glad to hear it> Unfortunately I'm going to have to bug you again. <Why I'm here> I have some orange cup corals of the non photosynthetic kind. <Gotcha> There are a couple different variations of the species so I'll just give you the name I've been using for ID. <My advise when it comes to the species names of lower inverts is to take all with a grain of salt...> It's a Tubastrea
coccina that is an LPS coral my problem is I don't know what to feed it. I've been using invertebrate foods such as
PhytoPlex, ChromaPlex, and Zooplex on varying cycles but it
doesn't seem to be keeping them in good health. <All bottled supplements with little benefits- You'll need to get some frozen high quality foods, as well as some decent coral food like Coral Heaven or Cyclop-eeze. These guys are quite the feeders- They'll require feeding every other day to flourish> I have two of these corals and they're mounted under a ledge in my aquarium just like in nature. <Feed them
Mysis shrimp with tweezers> I've read that you need to target feed these types of corals, but I've also read that you don't and if you do what can I feed them? <See above> I've also tried feeding my fish at night when its polyps star to emerge so it can catch some of the fishes food but that I don't think is working too well either. <Nope, you'll need to target feed them. If you cut the top off a 2-liter soda bottle, you can put this around your polyps and then use a feeding syringe to really give them a decent chance at eating> I really don't want to lose this coral so I'd
appreciate any info you have on them. I also seem to be having a micro bubble problem in my tank. I have a CPR overflow box that drains the water to my refugium/sump. Problem is it keeps blowing tiny bubbles down into my sump and creating a really annoying salt creep problem all around the top where the big bubbles pop and slash and such. Any simple remedies like egg crate on the surface of the water? <Sometimes a piece of bridal veil netting somewhere in the line to the sump can help- Really it's just fine tuning. Tinker, tinker my friend. Have a good one, Ryan> I don't know. Please help out.
Chris aka fishtank
LPS Coral Q's - getting their fiber 4/25/04
Hello there friend!!!
<cheers, mate>
I have a quick question regarding two of my stony LPS corals. I have a green torch coral and a branching frogspawn coral. I believe they are doing great by the way they look (opened, tentacles stretched out, and good tissue). On to the question....at times, I see these corals excrete some brown stuff that floats off into the water....Is this something
I should be concerned of or are they just excreting waste matter.
<the latter almost certainly - particularly when they are getting enough meaty foods>
I have heard of brown jelly disease but have no clue of what it
looks like.
<its unmistakable... and virulent. From sight to complete decimation of the coral in 48 hours or so for many>
What are the signs and symptoms of the brown jelly disease.
<tough to describe in a brief text message. Do look at Eric Borneman's Aquarium Corals book for excellent pics/descriptions of coral diseases>
What do they look like and how can I prevent it from happening???
<it usually enters the tank from a new, sick or otherwise un-quarantined animal carrying it in. Please be sure to QT all new livestock without exception for 4 weeks and most all such troubles will not visit you/your coral>
Last question, have you heard of a food for corals/filter feeders called PhytoPlan by Two Little Fishies???
<yes>
Is this stuff good to feed to my two LPS coral???
<Hmmm... a subjective question. I'd like to see you feed a wide variety of foods to your corals. In the case of your LPS... they are carnivores (like most corals) and need zooplankton... not phytoplankton>
One more question.... what is the life span of these corals??
>many decades, with many over 100 years and some with no known senescence (old age). The oldest living coral is pegged at around 1000 years old>
Thank you very much
<kindly, Anthony>
Food for thought
Greetings crew!
<Graham at your service!>
OK, I did my research and reading like a good little
pet-father before getting my open brain coral. I know
that it likes to be fed several times a week with fine
chopped meat (got shrimp, clams, and squid for it). The
only thing I did not think of is HOW to feed it. Here
is what I have tried:
1. I tried the turkey baster method with the pumps on
and ended up feeding the rest of the tank.
2. Turned off the pumps and did the baster method
again. The rest of my tank used the brain as a plate
and got fed....again.
3. Next day, tried putting small amount with my fingers
directly on the center of the brain and then immediately
feeding the rest of my tank their food. Same result as #2.
4. Tried #2 and #3 during day and an hour after lights
go out. Same results but fish & shrimp getting fatter
and are hanging out around brain begging for more.
I got the brain because I love how they look under my
lights (220W of 10,000K & Actinic). I did NOT get it to
be a plate for my always hungry fish and shrimps.
Any suggestions on how to feed my brain?
<Well, it sounds like you've already tried quite a bit of various methods.
It's important to feed your brain when the feeder tentacles are out. This
usually occurs a few hours after the lights go off. Once these feeder tentacles
come out, you may place a small piece of krill, silverside, shrimp, etc. gently
on the tentacles. The brain should then pull the food in. You'll find it very
difficult to feed a brain without these tentacles being out. You may use other
methods to feed, including using a turkey baster and gently squirt the food into
its tentacles. You may also want to temporarily turn off any current in the
aquarium to prevent the food from floating off before the coral has a chance to
catch it.>
Thanks
<Take Care! Graham.>
-Ray
How to feed a bubble coral 3/22/04
I have a bubble coral (Plerogyra sp.) and have had it for about4
months. it used to open up every day and here lately I have noticed
that it doesn't open up as much anymore. How and should I go about
trying to feed the coral.
<Your bubble and open brain will benefit from feedings of small (BB-marble
size) pieces of meaty food. Simply place the food onto the corals
when their feeding tentacles are extended, which is usually at night.>
I also have a brain coral that was opening up well and now he doesn't open up as
much (expand or get fleshy). what can I do. my water
quality is good sp 1.024, calcium 450, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, and nitrates
0.25. my setup is a 15 gallon high tank with 72 watts of lighting (actinic
bulb, and combo actinic with 10,000 daytime bulb, power compact).
<My first recommendation would be to do a water change and/or run some
carbon. Both of the corals you mentioned can be quite sensitive to
water quality, and there are a lot of things that affect water quality that we
can't test for. Best Regards. Adam>
Coral feeding - 3/17/04
I recently was given a few corals and am trying to figure out what to do to
feed them. <Depends on the corals of course.> I only took corals that I knew
were going to be reasonably easy to care for, but I have a question about the
bubble coral's exact needs.<OK> I see that bubble corals need to be fed.
<In my opinion they do.> Some things I read say to feed meaty foods, and
others say they need zooplankton. <Maybe a mix, but more likely of the
meatier variety> I have been feeding it by squirting a little Hikari Mysis
shrimp <good> or blood worms <not so good> (I alternate every other
day for my fish). I feed it about three times a week. <excellent!> It
seems to eat it. Are these small enough for a bubble coral, or will it
regurgitate these pieces? <I think mysids should be fine but if the pieces
are too large than it might regurgitate. Have you noticed this? You could try Cyclops-eeze,
baby brine, enriched brine (Spirulina enriched) and other frozen fish
preparations> Would I be better off buying one of those liquid zooplankton
supplements? <Unless you have other corals that could make use of the
zooplankton I would save your money and buy fresh or frozen preparations as
noted above> I do not have a refugium, so I doubt I have enough in the water
to sustain the coral. <Most of us even with a refugium sometimes still don't
have enough natural foods alone, to maintain corals. The use of frozen or fresh
preparations seem to assist our abilities. Thanks for your question. ~Paul>
Thanks!
-Ken
Feeding time
Thank you for the help with the lighting situation. I had another
question about feeding my candy cane coral. I have tried to feed it
(using turkey baster, turning off all water movement) mega marine algae, Mysis
shrimp and brine shrimp but the tentacles only ever come out at like 4:00 in the
morning...I can't keep doing this. Is there a way to get them to open
up during the day, a certain food I should be feeding them??
<Corals can be "trained" to extend their tentacles by feeding at
the same time each day and by "teasing" the polyps with a squirt of
juice from the food. It takes some patience and time, but it will
work. In the meantime, while I admire your dedication, you probably
don't need to get up at 4:00 each morning. This coral will do fine
for quiet a while without target feeding. Any chopped (BB size) meaty food is
fine.>
Also, my green bristle star has started making a tent...waiting
for an unsuspecting fish. I have been feeding him shrimp whole) but
he has recently stop taking it...is there something better to try and feed
him??? Thank you very much for all the help so far,
Todd Hawman
<Todd, as you seem to be aware, some brittle stars are quite predatory when
they get large. I would try smaller pieces of shrimp or other meaty
foods. Do consider whether you wish to risk any fish or inverts by
keeping this animal. Best Regards. Adam>
Feeding Tubastrea sun coral 3/11/04
Hi, how often do I have to feed the Sun Coral (Tubastrea)? And, what types
of food are best? Cyclop-eeze? Thanks, Adam
<Cyclop-eeze is an excellent food, but cannot be used alone like any whole
food (limited in various nutrients/vitamins). Offer your Tubastrea a variety of
4-6 meaty foods of marine origin (mysids, Pacifica plankton, minced krill, etc)
several times weekly. And be sure to feed each polyp... they are individuals and
not colonial. There are many interesting feeding tricks for Tubastrea (feeding
hats, removal to feeding cups for slurries, etc). This coral is best kept in a
species tank... they are too hard to feed in a typical reef tank of
zooxanthellate corals without ruining water quality or starving the sun coral.
This coral has been spawned many times in captivity. Do research more on the
subject. Kindly, Anthony>
Feeding corals minced foods 2/22/04
Hi Anthony,
<hi Rick. Adam here today.>
Is it ok to buy an entire package of Pacifica plankton and Mysid shrimp, thaw
them out, mix them together, mince them in a blender, then refreeze
them? I want to do this for my corals, so I don't have to mince them
a couple times a week when I feed them. I was going to mix them just
to vary the diet a little, I guess. Bad idea? Regards, Rick
<Generally, thawing and re-freezing foods is quite damaging to their
nutritional value. That is why most DIY fish food recipes recommend
only fresh seafoods be added. Adding small amounts of thawed foods to
a recipe of mostly fresh foods is probably fine. Best
Regards. Adam>
Tubastrea Food
I have had a Tubastrea, (orange cup) for about a year now. It has slowly
died off from lack of food on my part. I'm not only afraid to pollute the tank
with daily 'injections', but it's really no easy task to get to it.
I am on a crusade now however to save it. First of all, how hard should the
water flow be for this guy?
<Medium currents should be fine. If you would like me to try to be more
specific, around 3" of water should pass by the coral in a time frame of 1
second, Meaning that that water would travel 3" every second.>
I do have a powerhead about 2 feet away from it, so that the water just sort of
flows over it. Does it need a strong current?
<Strong current isn't needed.>
Next, what is the best food to feed it, Phytoplex Phytoplankton, or,
could I pulverize some frozen food and add Reef Plus with vitamins and amino
acids, by Seachem?
<The Tubastrea is not a herbivore, therefore phytoplankton based foods would
not benefit the coral very much. I would recommend you feed it brine shrimp,
shrimp, diced fish, and squid 3x weekly. Remember to feed each polyp rather than
one or two individuals. You may want to look into creating a feeding cap. This
can be made by cutting a 2L soda bottle in half (keep the side with the cap).
You would want to first drill a small hole in the cap. Once the hole is drilled,
you may take a few feet of tubing and stick one end of the tubing through the
hole you have drilled. Now, you will see half of the 2L bottle and some tubing
coming out of the cap. On the end of the tubing, you may want to have a syringe
attached. Once the syringe is attached, you're done. You can then place this
"Feeding cap" over the Tubastrea. Then, suck some DT's live
phytoplankton or any other foods in the syringe and inject it into the tubing
(which is connected into the bottle). The food will then be injected into the
bottle for the Tubastrea to feed on. As I stated above, be sure to also try to
inject some meaty foods into the mouths of the Tubastrea. If you need any
further instructions on how to make this feeding cap, please do not hesitate to
email one of us back.>
As always, it's a pleasure to chat with all of you at WWM! I really enjoy it!
<Thanks! Take Care,
Graham Stephan.>
Pam
Re: Tubastrea food
Sounds like a great idea, but when you say DT's live phytoplankton, is that
the same as Phytoplex Phytoplankton??
<No. DT's phytoplankton is live phytoplankton, unlike Phytoplex. Phytoplex is
dead phytoplankton which won't benefit the coral very much.>
Just want to be sure I order the right product!
thank you
<No problem!>
Pam
Take Care,
Graham Stephan
Re: Tubastrea food
Ahhhhh, I see. Okay, one more thing about these phytoplankton. You say that Tubastrea
are NOT plant eaters. But, phytoplankton are microscopic plants that live in the
ocean,.. can you explain this?
<Earlier I stated that phytoplankton wouldn't benefit the coral that much. I
then used phytoplankton as an example for what you could inject into the feeding
cap. Phytoplankton is often used to feed some species of non photosynthesis
gorgonians, tunicates, or sponges, which is why I used it as an example. In the
same sentence I also implied that you could also inject other types of foods
into the feeding cap. I was trying to use phytoplankton of just an example of
what you can inject into the "feeding chamber," rather than what you
should feed as the corals food source. I apologize if I was unclear and my
message sounded misleading, but was not my intention. I hope this helps! If you
have any further questions please do not hesitate to email one of us back.>
Graham Stephan
WWM Crew
Thanks,
Pam
Tubastrea Treats (Feeding An Ahermatypic Coral)
Good morning Scott,
<Hi there!>
I would like to buy the beautiful Tubastraea sp. I have some Liquid Life
BioPlankton running in my system, Do you think having this in the water is
enough to feed this beautiful animal or do I have to still feed it brine
shrimp???
Thank you!!!
<Well, Tubastrea do better with "meaty" marine-based foods, such as
suspensions made from fresh squeezed seafoods, etc. In his "Book of Coral
Propagation", Anthony recommends feeding the animal by removing it from the
display into a bowl or other container, filled with water from the display, into
which food is infused. The coral is left in the container for about 20 minutes
or so, then simply removed and placed back into the display. This eliminates the
possibility of polluting the display tank from overfeeding, and offers you a lot
of flexibility in the feeding process. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Feeding Corals
Question: is it best to feed your corals and clams at night time when the lights
are out or just before they come on in the morning, by the way I'm feeding it DT
live planktons? thank you in advance
< in my observations corals feed at night and during the day depending on
what corals you have. Try feeding 1/2 light on 1/2 lights off Thanks for the
question MikeH>
Coral Cuisine!
Hi crew
<Scott F. your Crew member today!>
I am currently feeding my corals a combination of Cyclop-eeze ( Cyclopeeze.com )
and Liquid Life BioPlankton ( liqiudlifeusa.com ). I know my tank is happy with
this food. As I was reading a few FAQ on wetwebmedia, it says that live
phytoplankton like DTs might be a wiser choice for me. The BioPlankton has to be
kept frozen in my freezer. I for sure want to keep using the Cyclop-eeze but I'm
wondering about the phytoplankton.
<Well, all of the products you mention are good! It just depends on what
kinds of animals that you are feeding! Phytoplankton is a major food source for
some soft corals, LPS, and gorgonians. It's not particularly useful for SPS
corals, which are much more accepting of zooplankton. Some of the foods that you
mention might be absorbed by SPS corals, but it's all about particle size
(Anthony uses a clever analogy of the usefulness of two story high acorn for a
squirrel!). In the end, the best way to go, IMO, is to develop a refugium for
your system, where natural plankton populations can arise and reproduce,
providing your tank with the ultimate food source, live zooplankton. Do read the
many wonderful resources about refugia available on the WWM site, and in Bob and
Anthony's "Reef Invertebrates" book. Have fun! Regards, Scott F>
Phytoplex vs. ChromaPlex vs. Zooplex - 9/24/03
Hi! I have a question about Phytoplex vs. ChromaPlex vs. Zooplex. The
Phytoplex has micron size up to 15 microns. The new Zooplex has micron size up
to 800 microns. I am assuming the larger the micron size the smaller the
particle size is. If that is correct, do I still need to whisk the Zooplex
(800micron)?
<not correct, mate... the smaller units of measure are smaller particles>
I have a 75 gal soft coral tank. I have a Colt coral, Gorgonian and Cladiella
that require these type of products.
<ahhh... no they don't. <G> At least, that is to say... I believe there
are much better options. Live cultured phyto or any bottled brand that is sold
refrigerated and dated (like DTs)... and a refugium for live zooplankton. Warm
bottled supplements in my opinion are not good for long term success>
I am have a difficult time figuring which one I need.
<take my advice... none. Add a refugium and call it a day :) >
I have been rotating them, one every other day with one cap full. I read on your
web page about refrigerating them and whisking them in a blender. Keeping them
in the frig is no problem but how do whisk a cap full at a time?
<to answer your question... simply ameliorate it with a few cups of aquarium
water (add water, whisk, then return the water to the tank). But do know that
supplements purchased at room temperature and of an unknown age scare me. Best
regards, Anthony>
Feeding Corals 8/27/03
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