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FAQs on Basslets/Gramma Systems
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Ga Ga For Grammas (Royal
Gramma Biotope System) 7/7/09
Hello Crew,
<Hey there! Scott F. your Crew member today!>
I am in the process of setting up a 29g reef, which has been built, but
not yet stocked pending the conclusion of my research.
<Good heavens- you're RESEARCHING before setting a system up? This is
really great to see/hear. So many problems can be eliminated with a
little time spent researching. Good for you!>
I want to showcase Condylactis anemones (only one type, hopefully the
gigantea), and my wife is interested in a Royal Gramma.
<One of my all-time favorite fishes!>
That led me to focus on a
Caribbean biotope, having read Tullock's and Mr Fenner's books, as well
as Reef Invertebrates by Mr Fenner and Mr Calfo.
<Excellent references all!>
I am leaning toward
the shallow side of a fore reef, with a 2x65w Coralife fixture, an Aqua
C Remora skimmer, and dual returns routed from a SCWD that should result
in a total flow rate of around 300-350gph after accounting for head loss
and the head pressure of the SCWD. The tank has been drilled and has a
1" Durso installed.
<Know the man- love his standpipes!>
I have around 25lbs of well established Fiji rock (can't get Gulf rock
locally), another 25lbs of well established base rock, and 40+ pounds of
live sand. I anticipate about a 4" sand depth in the display, with a 20g
long being used for the sump.
<Sounds good so far. If you're thinking about the whole biotope idea, do
consider building up a rock overhang under which your Royal Gramma can
hang out in a natural fashion This is a really interesting biotope. In
fact, I'll be in the Caribbean next week, and hope to be visiting my
pals the Grammas in their natural environment!.>
Other species I am considering include 3-5 peppermint shrimp, a few
Astraea and turbo snails, and a pair of Atlantic cleaner shrimp
(actually, Lysmata amboinensis, as I can't get the Atlantic version
locally). I would want to place the anemone or anemones in first to let
them settle a bit, as I anticipate them wandering a bit more at first. I
only plan on keeping one Royal Gramma. I don't think a second fish is a
good idea in a tank this size, unless you think there's a practical
option.
<I would generally not attempt adding more than one in an aquarium of
this size. Perhaps a few Neon Gobies might fit in nicely and add to the
interest of this biotope, but that's about it. If this were a larger
system, I'd definitely create an aggregation of Grammas, and perhaps a
few other fishes>
I've looked around the site, but haven't found info on this specific
setup...any advice?
Stan
<Well, Stan, I think that you are on the right track. As an obsessed by
biotope geek myself, I really think that this is a great way to
highlight and learn more about animals that you are interested in.
Fishes and inverts in a system that attempts to replicate the natural
environment will display more natural behaviors and colors, as well as
possibly engage in spawning behavior. And, biotope systems are highly
educational to both hobbyists and non-hobbyists alike. They are truly
unique displays that can provide a new dimension of enjoyment to your
hobby. Best of luck! Regards,
Scott F.>
Re: Condy anemone/royal
gramma biotope
Stocking a Royal Gramma Biotope 7/8/09
Scott,
<Hey Stan>
Since you're headed that way, can you suggest a few names of likely
Royal Gramma habitats in the Caribbean? I know they are prolific, but I
am hoping to find some biotope pictures online, and it seems the best
way to research biotopes is by looking at tourist-oriented websites,
especially for deep sea diving locations.
<Excellent thought. The tourist and dive sites are a great source of
biotope information and usually have great photos as well! I would look
for information from The Bahamas, Venezuela, the Lesser Antilles, and
other outlying parts of the Caribbean. I hope to see some in Grand
Cayman and Isla Roatan, but that might be wishful thinking. They seem to
be very commonly encountered in Bimini in the Bahamas, so checking out
dive sites for this area could be fruitful. Check the sites for dive
operators in the other areas mentioned, too, and www.fishbase.org for
specific type localities and other great information!>
Also, I hear the C. gigantea species can top out at 12 inches. I
anticipate not having any corals or sessile inverts in the tank, but
will this anemone's size be a problem?
<In the size of aquarium that you are contemplating, this species could
be a problem. I'd be more inclined to consider smaller, hardier, more
abundant "Rock Anemones", such as Phymanthus or the "Corkscrew
Anemones", Bartholomea species. Although it would be cheating a bit, as
these species are generally not found in the same environment as the
Grammas, these would probably fare better in a system of this size. To
be honest, I would pass on an anemone altogether in the biotope, as they
are generally not found in super close proximity to the Grammas in
nature. I would be much more inclined to utilize Gorgonians, or even
(artificial!) sponges and encrusting soft corals (versions of Sinularia,
perhaps- although not found in the region, could make a suitable
facsimile of the local corals, if desired.). Passing on the anemone
would create a more faithful/functional/sustainable reproduction of the
biotope, IMHO. You should consider planting some calcareous macroalgae,
such as Halimeda, in the rocks.>
As the focal point of the tank, I am okay with it filling the tank...
<Umm...consider the options above.>
Lastly (though I know better), any chance of an Arrow Crab working in
this size aquarium with a Royal Gramma? I am under the belief that
sooner or later every snail, shrimp, or fish would be lunch at some
point in a tank this size (29g). I just think they are cool, so I like
to ask around.
<I, too, have always loved the Arrow Crab, but I'm a bit leery of them
at the larger sizes. Although better known for eating polychaetes like
bristle worms, they do tend to develop more "cosmopolitan" tastes in the
confines of an aquarium, perhaps even going after more desirable life
forms, such as Feather Dusters, etc. They will definitely be a threat to
smaller crustaceans, such as shrimp, and could at least potentially be
problematic to smaller more sessile fishes, so keep this in
consideration. Although not really piscivores per se, "accidents" do
happen in the aquarium. I would certainly keep a small specimen if you
are inclined to have one, and keep a close eye out for potential
problems in a system of this size. Best to use some of the small to
medium sized shrimps instead, although not to small, as you might end
up feeding your Gramma an expensive little meal! So much to consider, I
know, but we just need to be mindful of the potential issues in a
modest-sized system.>
Thanks again for a great site!
Stan
<My pleasure, Stan. Don't want to "rain on your parade", but I did want
to give you some food for thought in regards to potential stocking
issues for this aquarium. Best of luck, and keep me posted on how this
system evolves!
Regards, Scott F.>
Re: Condy anemone/royal gramma
biotope
Stocking a Royal Gramma Biotope (cont'd.) 7/8/09
Scott,
<Hey Stan!>
Something like this, perhaps, with my tank representing a slice of the
bottom of this wall. I have some synthetic Red Sea live rock that looks very
similar to the red encrusting sponges found in the Caribbean. I could use
that along the corner to conceal the overflow and mimic the sloping wall.
Pillars of true live rock go along the bottom, inter spaced with Halimeda. I
can get gorgonians pretty readily here, and there are rock anemones brought
in as hitchhikers pretty often as well. I may also attach some dried sea
fans to augment the gorgonians.
<Very nice...This is a great biotope to replicate. I have often though that
it would work well in one of those tall, narrow aquariums (You know- the
kind that end up in the garage collecting dust for eternity, or become
terrariums..>
Final livestock plan appears as such:
1 Royal Gramma
2 Cleaner Shrimp
3-5 Peppermint Shrimp
2-3 Turbo Snails
3-5 Astrea Snails
maybe a...
<Hmm...maybe a Neon Goby or some kind of Blenny...Maybe a Jawfish, if you
have deep enough sand! Keep me posted on this setup! Regards, Scott F.>
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Re: Condy anemone/royal Gramma biotope
Caribbean Biotope (cont'd.) 7/23/09
Hey Scott,
<Hey there!>
I found this on the web...great report that has actual counts of coral
specimens, along with their locations and the fish/invertebrates found
with them.
<Very cool to find this kind of information on the web. There is a
wealth of useful biotope information out there for the hobbyist willing
to take a serious look!>
Here's another report dealing with anemones in the Keys
specifically...Also, a really good website, with movies and pics of
Caribbean biotopes (help planning your dives?) can be found
here...http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/html/tropecoimages.html.
<Neat..in fact, Michelle L. and I just returned from a Caribbean dive
trip, and we noticed Condylactis anemones on reefs in Belize and
Cozumel..I was surprised, quite frankly, to see them there.>
Interestingly, I noted that there are fairly low appearances of
Cleaner/Banded Shrimp, suggesting that multiple specimens in a 29g tank
is not representative of their natural habitat (unless they are
pairing). This holds true for Arrow Crabs as well, although they are
already known to fight each other in aquariums.
<Absolutely. Although once again, on the reefs I did see these creatures
residing in surprisingly close proximity to each other. This would be
completely crazy to attempt in an aquarium, IMO. One of the coolest
things I saw was in Cozumel- a "family" of 3 Arrow Crabs- two adults and
a little guy- all on a small patch of rock. It was really cool to see.>
Sure is a lot of stony coral...I will be using some "branch rock" around
the slope and along the bottom to replicate the pieces that would
normally fall off and deposit along fore reef slopes due to storm
damage. The Acropora count was around 50-60% of the coral counted in
some areas, with algal growth accounting for most of the rest...
<I was surprised to see so much macroalgae, such as Dictyota and some
turf algaes, covering the reefs...far more predominantly than
corallines.>
For my setup, I will be trying to replicate a small slope that might be
found along a fore reef wall, a ledge, if you will.
<Nice idea.>
Also, here's a super website that has lots of pics, and some movies, of
various locations in the Caribbean.
<Hmm...not seeing it. I'm very excited to see your concept coming
together.
Best of luck- and keep me in the loop! Regards, Scott F.>
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Adding a Black Cap Basslet to
a 24 Gal Nano Cube 6/25/2009
Hey Guys,
<Hello Jonathan.>
Love the website and help that you provide to fish hobbyist of all
experience levels! I have been reading a lot of forum posts and have
learned a lot regarding which fish would suit my needs best.
<Thank yo for the kind words.>
This is my first marine tank and am very excited. I have a 24 gallon
nano cube with about 23 lbs of live rock and 20 lbs of live sand. I
currently have:
A mated pair of False clowns.
1 green chromis
1 long fin cardinal
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 red fire shrimp
12 snail and hermit combo
<Very crowded for a 24 gallon tank, the Chromis is ill suited for a tank
this small, as they are open swimmers. 24 gallons is also a bit too
small for a pair of clowns.>
All have been getting along great after I took out a royal gramma that
seemed to harass the other tenants. Also, I strongly felt that the
gramma took out a cleaner shrimp. I was told that the gramma was a
docile fish that would not eat ornamental shrimp therefore the gramma
was one of the earlier entries into my tank.
<They generally will not, however in cramped quarters, 'all bets are
off'.>
I am now planning to add a black cap Basslet and have it has my last
addition before possible corals.
<Not a good idea.>
Will the addition of the black cap Basslet disrupt the harmony in my
tank?
I know that they are very similar to the royal gramma, and some have
said that they CAN be more aggressive.
<They are behaviorally the same as a Royal Gramma.>
I seem to have plenty of room for the black cap Basslet and have plenty
of live rock for the Basslet to roam.
<Not in a 24 gallon with that many fish in it already.>
My current fish all swim in the water column and the black cap would
look great in the caves. My main concern, will the black cap become
aggressive again, since he was the last addition, or will I run into the
same problem I had with the royal gramma?
<You will have the same problem.>
I am also running the Oceanic protein skimmer since it is the only one
that will fit my tank. I know its not the best skimmer, but it's better
than nothing!
So I guess my question is 2 fold: Will the addition of the black cap
Basslet overstock my fish and will the addition of the Basslet disrupt
the my tank?
<You are already overstocked, and yes a Basslet will disrupt your tank
further.>
Any input you have will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
<I would recommend getting rid of the Chromis and not adding anything
else..read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/smmarsysstkgfaqs.htm >
Jonathan.
<MikeV>
How Do I Keep My Royal Gramma From Jumping
Out? - 01/11/06 Happy new year to all. <<And to you>> I
purchased a Royal Gramma <<Wonderful little fish!>> for my
lightly stocked 55gal. (Lightly stocked being two Ocellaris Clowns, a
Flame Angel and a 2 in. Yellow Tang <<Mmm...>>... and now the
Gramma). I'm not concerned at all about him being bullied because
when I purchased him from the LFS he would hardly come out of hiding,
<<This doesn't keep a fish from being "bullied.">> problem because
he was in a tank all alone, and it was the same deal in my QT. Now
that he's in my display, (55 gal. CORNER bow front) he's out all the
time. <<Super!>> He'll either be staring at me normal, or on his
side or facing down, you know .. just typical Gramma stuff. He started
eating right away and nobody in the tank has paid him any attention, and
he's always out hanging out, being a fish (well except the flame angel
will stare him down and that's only when the Gramma gets near "his" live
rock). <<All sounds good/normal thus far.>> I've got plenty of
hiding places provided by 30 lbs of live rock. My concern is that if
he does by chance get spooked he'll go flying out of the back corner of
the tank which is not covered. Do you think that I should worry about
it at all, <<I've kept these great little fish for years and never
has one taken "the leap." Doesn't mean it couldn't happen though.>>
and if so do you have any suggestions of how I could cover that back
corner? <<A piece of "eggcrate" plastic light diffuser from the
hardware/home store placed over the opening should give you the comfort
you seek.>> Thanks for the input.. Have a Nice day. -Heather
<<You're welcome...Regards, EricR>>
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