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FAQs about Non-Vertebrate Animal Identification 37

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ID for a Green, Stationary, Segmented tube worm growing in my tank
Green, Stationary, Segmented tube worm growing in my tank, Algae Actually 6/30/08
Hello,
<Hi>
Hope you all are well, and thanks so much for providing the wealth of information and insight that has made this hobby even more rewarding!
This email is a bit lengthy, but I think that it is always helpful to give a complete history, especially in the case of a tank crash.
<Fire away>
I have a 55G long, Indo-Pacific reef tank that has spent the last six months recovering from a 4 day power loss in PA in the middle of December. Prior to the crash, this tank was populated with 6 different color/types of Zoanthids, yellow polyps, green star polyps, white clove polyps, red mushroom corals, and assorted crabs/snails, two huge batches of Halimeda and 3 fish (coral beauty, false percula and blue damsel).
After the crash, this tank was populated with really smelly mud. I was breaking down the tank and noticed that, in fact, there were a handful of crabs and snails that actually survived 4 days at 40 degrees.
<They are survivors.>
I didn't have the heart to chuck them down the driveway with the stinky water, so I pulled out all that I could find, scrubbed down the rock in a batch of RO/DI salted water and re-established the tank. (The insult to injury in all of this was the fact that I had a 20,000 watt home generator installed that I thought would allow me to avert such a crisis, but, unfortunately, it wasn't installed correctly and we could never get it to come on and give power.)
<Ouch>
Flash forward six months later and I once again have 3 fish (all new):
a coral beauty, a false percula, and a yellow Coris wrasse. Believe it or not, I've gotten about 50-60 yellow polyps that have come back, a bunch of purple coralline algae encrusting the rock again and I random worms/feather dusters that have crept out of the rock that I'd never seen prior to the crash.
<They have no competition for the moment.>
This brings me to my question. I've attached some JPG files of some stationary tube worms that seem to be growing out my rock. I've searched your site and across the web, but have found not a single picture or description that matches these critters. They have a white, calcareous base that starts narrow and gets wider to a rounded tip. They extend about 1.5 - 2 inches up from the rock. They almost look like elongated thumbs. As you progress up the tube, there are rings of fine, green "feathers" that get larger as the tube widens, then taper towards the tip. They appear to be segmented.
<Not worms actually, algae, Neomeris annulata.>
NOTE: The only thing new in this tank is a rock with some blue-green Zoanthids on it, but it was placed in the tank after these guys showed up. The rest is all indo-pacific rock from about 8 years ago.
Any help that you can give me in identifying these worms would be greatly appreciated!
Deb
<Neomeris annulata is harmless, calcium loving algae. Fairly common in tanks, although it seems to fade over time. Enjoy it while its there.>
<Chris>

Strange particles  – 06/28/08
Hi,
<Hello there>
I see some green/brown particles in my aquarium sump and in the overflow.
They don't look like green algae but they look like some polyp. They stick to the wall and grow from there. I have attached some images to make it clear. Can someone please help me identifying what this is?
<Not from these pix... look like... as you say, particulate matter... could well be a biological component. Perhaps a magnifying glass, small microscope will show more... I'd use a mechanical filter... likely an Emperor Aquatics "bag" on the discharge end of your drain line/s going into the sump to capture a good deal of this>
Another question that I had was the problem with the overflow. The overflow always gets some bubbles and the siphon is lost.
<Yikes... dangerous>
I have installed Aqualifter and its still working but the bubbles don't seem to enter the hole unless I tilt or move the overflow around. Any help would be appreciated.
<... I'd drill the tank, have it drilled. Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marsetupindex2.htm
the fourth tray down... Bob Fenner>

New Critter Needs ID, Asterina 6/27/08
Hello again crew,
<Hi>
I don't suppose my tank stats matter for this question, so I will skip those. This little guy showed up on my glass yesterday and I have no idea what he is. A few weeks ago I asked you guys about some things that showed up when the lights were out, and Lynn identified them as Collonista and Stomatella (thanks again for that!). Anyway, this guy is about the 4 or 5 mm long, and looks like some kind of snail. However, as you can see from the pic, he looks 5-sided, with one longer side. Some sort of starfish maybe? My fish keep investigating him, its kinda funny actually, but none have bothered him yet. Any ideas crew? Thanks again, Jared S.
<Looks like an Asterina star to me. See here for more http://www.wetwebmedia.com/asterinaidf.htm .>
<Chris>

Better Pic of New Critter on Glass 6/27/08
Hey crew,
I was able to take a better picture of the new critter on my glass. I am pretty sure its some kind of starfish now, just would like to know which.
Thanks again, Jared S.
<Yep, an Asterina.>
<Chris>

Re: Critter ID.  6/24/08
Hi, I wish I'd seen this query - I'd have nabbed it for sure! I saw something similar to this a couple of days ago while on the hunt for Tineke's mystery shell/slug/Rhodophyte combo. I'll see if I can't backtrack and find out what it is.
-Lynn
<Thank goodness... I swear I've seen, read about this sort of "bivalvish", footed, ambulatory marine life... but can't for the life o me wake up and smell da cacao and recall what the Dickens group it belongs to. Be chatting! B>

LOL Yep, I know what you mean. Now the trick for me is to remember where I saw the blasted thing!
Take care,
-Lynn
<Know whatcha mean... Hey, where are my pants!? Will do. B>

Critter ID: Bivalve Mystery - 6/24/08
Hi there,
<Hi Carl, Lynn here this afternoon!>
Firstly congratulations on the great site!
<On behalf of Bob and the crew, thank you very much!>
This is my first marine aquarium and your site has provided me with a great amount of information to help me on my way.
<Excellent>
I was wondering if you could help me identify this little chap which seems to have hitched a lift on my last batch of live rock.
<Will sure try.>
He's only a few millimeters in size and brown in colour, the main part of the (shell?) looks like a split seed casing out of which comes a small white worm.
<Okay>
It moves by basically attaching the (head?) end of the worm
<The shape is reminiscent of a clam siphon.>
..to a rock or the glass and then dragging itself along. It seems to be around day and night and doesn't seem to be causing any problems in the tank.
<That’s always a plus!>
Just curious as I've not been able to ID it. http://h7lwpw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p4IDr1MtfX0zR2RucSIySuNcmVaXc7KuxbCiaLHGLhtFTkVWWLqzE8IFbeJTW3-OK_HeGwiouZZhJjzRoDIj7KA/Untitled-1.jpg?download
<Okie doke. Is there any way you can get a higher resolution/more detailed photo of this little guy? If not, that’s okay. Hopefully, together we can solve this mystery! When it comes to bivalved critters, the choices that come to mind are mollusks in the Class Pelecypoda/Bivalvia (clams and such), Ostracods (“seed shrimps”/Crustaceans), Brachiopods (aka “lamp shells”), and Opisthobranch sea slugs in the Family Juliidae. Of these possibilities, the most mobile are the Ostracods and sea slugs. I think we can rule out Ostracods because they have multiple long hair-like antennae protruding from their shells instead of a single, thicker stalk/siphon (whatever that thing is in the photo). See this example of an Ostracod for comparison: http://www.friendsofwarnhamlnr.org.uk/images/pondlife/crustacea/ostracoda/cypris05.jpg
Sea slugs in the genus Juliidae are also out because all have two obvious rhinophores/antennae on their heads. I don’t see any on your creature and I think you would have noticed them had they been there. By the way, let me know if you take another look at your little guy and do indeed see rhinophores! In the meantime, please see these links for sea slug examples: http://www.seaslugforum.net/display.cfm?id=19650
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=julizebr .
Now we’re left with mollusks/bivalves and Brachiopods. Most live either attached to hard surfaces or buried in sediments. Although they’re mostly sessile, they can and do move about when very young (before settling) and, if possible as an adult, when necessary. Brachiopods attach themselves to hard surfaces and anchor themselves in the sand by way of what’s called a "pedicle" or stalk. Bivalve mollusks (except for scallops and such) use a muscular foot to move about/bury themselves in the substrate, while those that attach themselves to hard surfaces secrete byssal threads as holdfasts. Now that you have some of the general terms, please see the criteria listed below. Hopefully it will help narrow things down. By the way, if you have a magnifying glass somewhere, dig that puppy out and take a close look at your little critter.
1. Pedicle that emerges from a single hole on one side of the shell = Brachiopod.
2. Long, slender pedicle that emerges from what appears to be a hinged area (where the two shell halves meet) = Brachiopod.
3. A Muscular foot that emerges from the open side of two shell halves (not at the hinge) = bivalve/mollusk.
4. Shell with no pedicle hole + foot/siphon that can completely retract into shell = bivalve/Mollusc.
5. Once attached to a surface, the creature is able to pivot about on the stalk/holdfast = Brachiopod.
Hopefully this helps! One thing I'd like to mention is that there may easily be other possibilities as well that I'm totally unfamiliar with! As is, I’m inclined to think that what you have is likely a very young bivalve (mollusk) of some sort trying to find a place to settle, rather than a Brachiopod. The reasoning behind this is mainly because the latter is less common. That and the fact that I can't come up with any other possibilities! Please see the following links for photos:
Brachiopod (see pedicle): http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/CA25677D007DC87D/LUbyDesc/WPB-lamp_il/$File/lampshell_il.jpg
Ostracods as well as a photo of a juvenile bivalve (bottom left):
http://www.chucksaddiction.com/hitchpods.html >
Many Thanks,
Carl.
<You’re very welcome. Keep in touch –Lynn>

Bob- I doubt that that is the animal's foot in the pic of the "bivalve." Could you and Lynn be thinking of "Lamp shells" (Brachiopoda)?
 Best, Sara M.
<Dat's a right>

Oh, yeah. B.

Re: Bivalve mystery . 6/25/08
"Bob- I doubt that that is the animal's foot in the pic of the "bivalve." Could you and Lynn be thinking of "Lamp shells" (Brachiopoda)? Best, Sara M.<Dat's a right>"
Hi Sara and Bob,
Yes, a Brachiopod was most definitely one of the possibilities that came up. I'm hoping that Carl will be able to determine whether he has a mollusk or a Brachiopod by the placement, etc, of that slender appendage. It does indeed look more like a clam siphon or a Brachiopod pedicle to me than it does a mollusk foot, but after seeing Charles' photo of a juvenile clam/scallop at the link provided, I had to admit that the possibility was there (see the photo on the bottom left: http://www.chucksaddiction.com/hitchpods.html ) . That still looks like a foot to me because it's a bit broader at the base, but given the possibility of odd positioning with Carl's creature and a bit of a blurry photo?? I just don't know. I'd actually love for it to be a Brachiopod. Anyway, I'm hoping to hear back from Carl so that we can have this answered!
Take care,
-Lynn

A strange shell or Nudibranch? 6/21/08
Dear Bob or Lynn,
<Greetings Tineke! Lynn here today.>
Do you know what this is?
<Yes, it's pretty - hehe!>
I thought it was a shell with some algae, but on a site (http://www.aqualifeimages.com/Default.aspx?ShowImage=66
http://www.aqualifeimages.com/Default.aspx?ShowImage=66&QueryIs=89%20results%20for%20%22Latest%20Images%22&sqlstr=SELECT%20*%20FROM%20IMAGES%20WHERE%20INACTIEF%20=%200%20AND%20Release%20=%2048%20ORDER%20BY%20NAAM&QueryIs=89%20results%20for%20"Latest
20Images"&sqlstr=SELECT%20*%20FROM%20IMAGES%20WHERE%20INACTIEF%20=%200%20AND%20Release%20=%2048%20ORDER%20BY%20NAAM)
<Unfortunately, I couldn't get through to the link (error message), but was able to locate the photo - yay! For anyone wanting to see this, please go to this site: http://www.aqualifeimages.com, choose “Nudibranch” in the drop down menu under “Aqualife subjects”. Once the page has opened (may take awhile), go to the third row from the bottom and see the photo on the far right. By the way, that’s a neat site!>
..I saw almost identical picture as an unknown Nudibranch.
<Yes, it looks like the same creature. Apparently, it was photographed in the Red Sea so I’m guessing that yours was taken there as well? You saw some neat things while you were there, didn’t you! That does it, I’ve got to go!>
I hope you know this one!
<Well, at first I thought that this should be fairly easy to ID, but after hours of searching and exhausting every resource I have, I’m more than willing to admit that I just don’t know! The frilly exterior reminds me of something in the genus Hydatinidae (family Acteonidae, Order Cephalaspidea – “Head Shield” slugs and Bubble shells). I didn’t see any however, that had their shells completely covered/obscured. See this species, for example: http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=hydaphys
http://www.seaslugforum.net/display.cfm?id=4463
Then I checked various Cowries as some of these have very elaborate mantles covering their shells. See these for example:
http://chemistry.csudh.edu/faculty/jim/cozaugo4-600/atlantic.jpg
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=ovulids .
It’s a shame we can’t see a bit more of the shell underneath, that would be a big help! My recommendation to you, at this point, is to send your photo and information along to Bill Rudman at SeaSlugForum.net and see what he says. By the way, please let us know if/when he does ID this neat little guy!>
Greetings from Holland,
Tineke
<Take care and good luck. I'm sorry I couldn’t ID this for you! –Lynn>

Re: A strange shell or Nudibranch? 6/21/08
Hi Lynn,
<Hi there!>
I will send this one also to Bill. I didn't get an answer yet on the other Nudi I sent him...no problem. I will wait a little bit longer.
<Well, from what I read on his site earlier today, they had a problem recently with a hacker so that might well be part of it.>
No problem that you haven't found it...still a mystery to solve!
<Thank you for understanding! I do love a good mystery and am looking forward to seeing this one solved. I’m sure Bill Rudman will have an answer for you soon!>
Greetings
Tineke
<Take care, -Lynn>

Shell and Rhodophyte, BGA? B.

Help identifying 2 pics? 06/21/08
Dear wet web media,
I have searched way too many hours on these things growing in our saltwater aquarium (120 gal). It's been established for a couple years now, but I am noticing these things multiplying recently. I've attached a pic of some of them. They seem to be mostly at the bottom of the tank on the glass. Their tentacles seem to move.
<The pics are really too blurry to make much out... but from your description below, I'd say they're likely harmless Spirorbis worms.>
In the second pic I have many tubes of different shapes. They seem to be growing larger. Some are long & skinny, where this one is kind of boot shaped with an obvious hole in it.
<They look like sponges to me.>
One thing I notice is white specs all over the glass at times. If you look really close they look kind of spiral shaped. I sort of think it looks like a snail (and I have hundreds of different sized baby snails that just keep showing up). Cold they be reproducing?
<Could be... are these things stationary or mobile?>
Thank you for your help.
Kristie
<De nada,
Sara M.>

Re: help identifying 2 pics?   6/22/08
Just to clarify, I have two things I am trying to identify. One is the specks that show up on the tank glass, that develop into spirals. I'm just
curious about these. Was wondering if they were snails reproducing.
<possibly...>
The one I am most concerned with is the tentacle like things that are multiplying on the glass near the bottom of the tank. Please let me attach
one more pic that is a little more close up. Maybe you can identify it better. These don't seem to move at all, although the tentacles or arms
(like hairs) seem to be alive & moving (not just with a current). They worry me that I should be getting rid of them. I probably have 20-30 of
them that have developed in the last month or two.
<Ah, now I can see them... looks like Hydroids.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/hydrozoanfaqs.htm>
Thank you for your time.
Kristie
<Best,
Sara M.>

Ohh, Hydrozoans. B

 


 

 

 

 

 

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