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Re: Please help. Skimmer sel. for lg.
SW
Bob,
i just woke up to do further reading on skimmers...and came across a reference
to your new book reef inverts. i looked it up and realized that this was the
first book id ever read on reef inverts. haha. i worked at the local Petco about
3 years ago after getting into the hobby...the store manager used to live in LA
and lent me the book...it certainly contributed greatly to my addiction. Thanks!
PS. If u
<...>
were to set up a 450 gallon sps grow out tank..and would maintain every part of
it very thoroughly. which skimmer would you use?
-Nate
<Likely a Euro-Reef... RMF>
Tunze 9010 For A 200g Reef? – 01/15/08
Hi,
<<Hello Marcus>>
I have just setup up a new 4 x 4 x 2 reef, upgraded from a 4 x 18” x 2.
<<Neat!>>
I am using my skimmer from my last tank which is a<<Tunze>> 9010, which I was
pretty happy with.
<<I too like Tunze skimmers>>
I am copping a fair bit of flack in my build thread about how undersized this
skimmer is for a 200g reef.
<<Really? Hmm, even though your new tank specs out at about 239-gallons (actual
true “empty” volume depends on the thickness of the panel material)…the Tunze
9010 has a “usage” rating of up to 264-gallons>>
What is your opinion?
<<I saw many of the “classic” Tunze skimmers in action overseas years back, and
well before similar quality skimmers were available in the States...they were
awesome. I don’t have any direct experience with the new Comline skimmers like
the 9010, but have heard positive comments from others… I suspect you/this
skimmer will be fine>>
Should I consider upgrading?
<<Is up to you, but I would probably wait to see how this skimmer performs with
the new system>>
I am only stocking with a medium to light load of LPSs/sps and fish, with a
pretty open aquascaping.
<<Still…best to plan/install filtration components for a “heavy” load, in my
opinion. Even when we plan for/know better…we sometimes can’t help adding “just
one more fish”>>
If I upgraded to a 9015 or even the foaming cup for the 9020, how much of a
difference would this make, given that, other than the collection cup and
chamber height, the skimmers are exactly the same?
<<Hmm, the 9020 is a “double” unit, though the 9015 does appear to be identical
(air/water flow specifications) to the 9010 but for the size of the collection
cup…which may indicate the smaller unit is just as efficient on larger tanks
(i.e. – can handle the same “bio-load”) but is limited by the amount of skimmate
it can process/hold before needing attention. In other words…if you’re willing
to empty the cup more often, the 9010 should serve as well as the higher
capacity-rated 9015 on larger systems>>
Many thanks,
Marcus
<<I do think your Tunze 9010 will serve your new system…but, give it a try first
and see what “you” think…you can always upgrade or add a second skimmer at a
later date if necessary. Regards, EricR>>
Skimmer Selection 1/15/08
Crew,
<Joe>
I am currently setting up a 210 gallon sps tank and I <Ah, another broken shift
key.> am trying to make a decision regarding my skimmer. I know this is one of
my most important pieces of equipment so I <I> don't mess this up. I don't
really have much sump space so I <I> am looking for a external skimmer. I like
the EuroReefs but for my application I would need the RC-500 which is like 1200
bucks. I was wondering if there is a good skimmer that won't cost me a grand. I
have been looking at the Lifereef brand of skimmers, in particular the VS3-36.
Jeff from LifeReef talks a good game about his skimmers and says he would put
them against a Euroreef anyway. So I would like to know if you have any
experience with Lifereef products? Also, if you don't like Lifereef what skimmer
model would you recommend? If the expensive Euroreef or similar is my only
option to keep the high water quality I will need so be it, but I want to know
for sure before I spent the money.
<Joe, no experience with Lifereef products but I hear they are quality products
and have heard no negative feedback on them. As for other brands of skimmers
that would work well in your tank, this would be my choice list.
AquaC EV240 (around $400)
Precision Marine PM Bullet 2 ($400)
Tunze Master DOC Skimmer, comes with two hydrofoamers and rated for tanks up to
1000 gallons, pricey, but an excellent skimmer. Keep in mind here that there are
no pumps to buy.($960)
ASM G-3 with a modified Sedra pump. ($310)
Hope this helps you out.>
Thanks for the help.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Joe
Skimmer help sel. 2/2/06
Dear crew,
<Robert>
I am currently under way with an expansion of my existing 300 gallon reef to a
new 560 gallon reef with 200 gallon refugium and 300 gallons
of grow out for frags.
<Some project now!>
I have looked at a number of large skimmers and am concerned about the mega
pumps required to properly run a unit such
as an Aqua C EV2000. I have been reading Anthony Calfo's book on coral
propagation and he discusses venturi style countercurrent skimmers as a viable
option.
<Don't be thrown by such descriptive terms... there are very junky Venturi
types, Countercurrents...>
What I can't figure out is how many units (linked in series) would I need, and
how much flow would be required to skim the
1100 gallons or so in my total system? Power consumption is a big problem out
here in California and I am trying to find a balance between
the necessary equipment, and the high cost of electricity.
<I would look to the fine folks at EuroReef here... or Deltec... even RK2... an
investment, but worthwhile.
Thanks,
Bob McCook
Lifereef Skimmer, sel. period for a 600 gal. SW 2/27/07
Just one quick question today, I have had a 180 gallon for 6 months now. My
skimmer is Lifereef VS3-30 powered by a Mag 12. I love my skimmer and everyone
has their opinions on which is the best. The Lifereef is simple to use and keep
tuned and pulls a full 1-2 cups of nog per week.
Million dollar question: If you were going to set up a 600 gallon reef what
skimmer would you use?
<Mmm, either one or more Euro-Reef products, but would consider a Deltec...>
I am thinking to just go with what I know and get a Lifereef VS3-72 (rated to
1500 gallons--I always double what its rated for) But there are so many custom
and well known high dollar skimmer's out there that seem to work just as great.
Deltec is seen many times on huge beautiful tanks. IMO the skimmer is the engine
and I want to make sure there's not a diesel out there I would be more happy
with even though my V6 is doing just fine. thanks Jeff
<And am hoping still for the advent of RK2 hobbyist sized units... Bob Fenner>
Double Skimming? – 5/19/07
Hello,
<Hi, James>
Is it a good idea to run two skimmers at the same time?
<Sometimes. It depends on your situation.>
I have recently built a new 920 gallon system.
<Ooh, nice!>
I am using an aqua-medic 5000 baby skimmer, which is rated at 528 gallons.
<Does sound like it's a little undersized.>
It is producing dark good quality skimmate non stop.
<And you are wondering how much it is leaving behind...>
So, I am looking at the AquaMedic 5000 twin which is rated for 1320
gallons. Should I run the twin along with the baby or just use the twin?
<If you have room to run both while you get the new one tweaked and broken
in, you will have a chance to see what both will do. If they both continue
to produce significantly, then you may want to keep both if serious skimming
is your goal. If the larger skimmer makes the original obsolete, it will be
obvious. I am running a similar experiment myself, and am soon to remove
the original, as the new skimmer is removing enough that the original is not
earning its keep.>
Many Thanks in advance,
James.
Large marine filter gear 6/6/07
First, thank you in advance for your time and expertise. I live in FL
and building a 300gallon, 375 with refugium filter reef system.
<How nice!>
An ETSS 600 Pro skimmer was recommended to me.
<Mmm, there are better choices... Posted on WWM...>
Is this the best and should I use ozone to a new system.
Regards, Shawn Sturm
<I would definitely look into and use Ozone (and maybe even a desiccator to
go with it) if this were my large marine system. Bob Fenner>
Big Tank-Big Plans!
I have a custom 275 gal (=empty) tank. It is in a wall, made of plywood and
coated with epoxy, the front is glass. It has a sink, drain, place for a sump,
etc.. It is set up pretty well. I want fish only. I have spent a large sum of $
on imitation coral that has also been epoxied to the rear wall of this tank. I
must tell you that it looks great.
<Sounds terrific!>
Imitation corals made today are, in my opinion, very realistic. My question to
you is this. Can I simply add live sand to the tank floor (and if so how much)
along with a very large protein skimmer ( I like Aqua C - what size would you
recommend)
<I'd look into an EV-400>
and have enough filtration?
<I'd go for at least a 3-4 inch sand bed, right on the tank floor>
I purchased a wet dry trickle filter with bio-balls but now am afraid of using
this wet dry filter because I belief that the resulting nitrate will ultimately
lead to excess algae growth. I do not want any algae to grow on these beautiful
corals.
<Well, you're probably better off removing the bioballs from the filter and
just using it as a sump- the "nexus" of your water processing system. Throw
in some live rock to provide additional "filtration". You will
probably always have some algae growth on the corals. Regular, careful
maintenance and some snails and other herbivores will help a bit>
I of course will treat all water using something like a Kent max60HiS four stage
Ro/Di or even Spectra Plus five stage Ro/Di ( Do you recommend any thing better
here?), and perform regular maintenance. Can someone please help!
Chris
<Well, Chris- sounds like the basis of a good setup. Either of the RO/DI
units you describe are fine for producing quality source water, as long as you
change the membranes and prefilters regularly. I've used both. Currently, I use
a Kent Maxxima "Hi S" model, and it does just fine. Keep researching a
bit more on sumps, and I think you'll find that your tank will be better off for
having one. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Protein Skimmers (No SeaClones Here!) - 04/29/05
Hi,
< Hello again Mohamed! >
Thanks for the information on the pump, I will buy Tunze and Eheim pumps.
< Can hardly go wrong. >
I need some help with protein skimmers.
< A common occurrence. >
I am looking for a skimmer for a tank holding 2000l of water.
< Uh...guess a Remora Pro is out.<G> >
I was looking at the Tunze automatic skimmer 240/3 or Kent Marine Nautilus EX Skimmer 30" but before buying one I need to know which makes are the best skimmers on the market doing the work it should.
< Wouldn't even consider the Kent skimmer...but that's me. For a system this size I would go with the Tunze skimmer, or a large Euro-Reef (my current
fave). I have a ER 12-3 on a 375g display with a system total of about 500g (1900l) and it works great. Other skimmers could do the job for sure, but I'm confident that a Tunze or a Euroreef will fill the bill nicely here. >
Thanks
Mohamed.
< Regards, Eric R. >
Redundant Skimmers For A HUGE System!
Hello,
<Hi there! Scott F. with you today!>
I am planning a 1400 gal. saltwater tank.
<Woooww! That's a SERIOUS system! Should be awesome!>
The size is of the main display, not to mention the sump, separate coral tank, etc. All in all 2000 to 3000 gallons of water. Would it be better to go with one large RK2 unit or many smaller Euro-Reef units plumbed so that each takes on a portion of the load?
Thanks,
Corey
<Well, Corey, in a system of this size, I think it would be a better idea to have some redundancy. I like the idea of 3 smaller, yet capable skimmers. This way, you could clean them in sequence, assuring you of clean, capable skimmers at all times. Yes, this may add a bit to the necessary plumbing, but I think it's a much better idea than to rely on just one skimmer in a system of this size. Hope this is useful to you! Regards, Scott F.>
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