Re: Green haired algae: Attn
Bob; magic magnet devices, overflow boxes and not 03/19/2009
Heheheh, yes, I face-palmed a few times during that email.
<I as well>
If you have a moment and want a laugh, do read about the Eco Aqualizer.
<Oh yes... met the young fellows who produce... have seen Morgan
Lidster's expose, the one he took apart... Miraculous!>
It emits "Far Infrared" rays, as well as breaking the molecular bonds
between water molecules, and liberates trapped oxygen - without being
hooked up to a power source. I was also totally unaware of the fact
that ammonia molecules get trapped - apparently by covalent or ionic
bonding, between water molecules. It is also vacuum sealed, despite
having water pumped through it.
<Right... and cures psoriasis reportedly as well>
Clearly, I got into the wrong line of work. I must have missed the
"Defying the laws of Physics\Nature" courses in college - perhaps those
were in the graduate or doctorate program.
<Have got my Pyramid cap on presently>
As far as the association is concerned, Yes, I am enjoying it immensely!
It has gotten me reading about aspects of the hobby that I had not even
contemplated before.
<Nor wanted to! D'oh!>
Speaking of snake oil, my sump has a gravity overflow (2 x 1" lines).
I've already experienced the "wet floor" syndrome from the tank
overflowing. Being the good little engineer, I've made a pump\overflow
controller - If the water level gets too high or too low in the sump, it
shuts the pump down and sets an audible alarm (before the water hits the
floor). The system must be manually reset (push button) before the pump
will restart.
<Mmm, we'll see... wouldn't it have been easier to just (re) drill, add
to the lines?>
Would you think there would be a market\utility for such a device?
Mike
<Maybe... Am going to ask ScottV for input here... It's "right up his
line". Cheers, BobF>
<<Hi Mike. I really have no idea if there would be a viable market for
these. It is no replacement for a proper overflow, but there are many
people I talk with everyday that are just unwilling or unable to drill
for whatever reason. There is one way to find out if these will sell, we
could try it! In case you are unaware I am a partner in
Glass-Holes.com...basically all overflow boxes and the accessories
needed to plumb and drill, the place to try selling these. If you would
like to give selling the units a whirl I would be more than happy to put
them on the site and we can see. And if you ever do want to drill your
tank for larger throughputs just let me know. And dang man, you live in
FL! If you have any inkling to dive do it, you will not regret it!!
Scott V.>>
Too good to be true? Magnets, swooped Tennies, going to Mars
3/3/07
Good evening to you.
Have any of you guys or gals
heard of a product called the ECO-AqualizerTM ?
http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/seehow1.htm
<Oh yes>
It
supposedly was the 2003 Aquarium Central product of the year.
<"Whoop dee doo">
If this product is capable of doing what it
advertises, I want one. Maybe Bob or one of you other fine folks with
an understanding of chemistry can look at
this website and let me
know if what they claim is possible. It really sounds like one of those
"If it seems to good to be true, it probably is" deals.
Thanks
again,
Mike
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/magneticfltfaqs.htm
BobF, with his
magical pyramid hat on this AM>
Magnet
Magic? - 06/02/2006
What is your take on the ECO-Aqualizer ??
<Some opinions can be viewed here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/magneticfltfaqs.htm
>
Thinking of experimenting with one.
<I'd like to see someone
(perhaps the company owner(s)) show some examples from controlled
experiments with empirical data as evidence to support their claims.>
Figured it can't hurt but not sure if will help ??
<Do take a look
here: http://www.inlandreef.com/Testing/EcoPhotos.html
. I will not form opinions for you, but were it my money I were
considering spending, I'd want more than just customer testimonials
backing up a product.>
Thanks in advance.
<You bet.>
Mark J
<Take care, -Sabrina>
Ich breakout, crowded marine systems,
Magical Magnet Cure-alls! - 05/13/2006
Hey Guys,
<What
about the women here? Am wondering if "guys" covers all genders
nowadays.>
I have recently introduced a new Tusk to my aquarium. I
have a 120 FO with skeletal corals. I have a huge wet/dry and a 25 UV
going. After introducing the Tusk my Blue Face Angel was giving him
problems.
<This tank is too small for a Euxiphipops...>
Not
surprisingly the Tusk broke out with ich. He has obviously been
scratching because he cut up the top of his tail. I have removed the
Blue Face Angel and put him in another aquarium, however my Tusk,
Picasso, Golden Arothron, and Volitans lion have ich now. None of these
guys have ever had ich.
<But your system did... you/they did
actually have a sub-symptomatic crypt infestation>
I don't want to
treat with copper. I just recently ordered a product called
ECO-Aqualizer that is supposed to help with the immunity of fish, and
almost cure anything.
<Heeee! Magnet technology... Hope you've also
got a pyramid hat to cogitate furiously with... See WWM re reference to
this product, the owners...>
Not sure if you've heard of it. However
do you have any suggestions? I love my fish and it sucks to see them
with ich after they have
been doing so well.
~Sam
<Uhh...
sure... Read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/ichart2mar.htm
and the linked files
above... and soon... formulate a real treatment plan, execute against
it... Or your fishes will perish. Bob Fenner>
Need advice on
setup and possible Danio problem 10/30/05
Hello, I would first
like to say what a great website you have! I have been spending hours a
day the past couple weeks reading all the FAQ's and learning so much
about keeping my fish healthy, and of course realizing what I have done
wrong. Thank you for the load of information that you have! I decided to
finally send in my questions and get your advice on a couple of issues.
To begin with let me tell you about my tank. It is a 75 gallon that has
been running since June of this year. I have 2 Emperor 280's with
BioWheels, UGF run by 2 Aquaclear 70's, 30" bubblewand and 2 other large
ornaments with airstones, 250 watt Heater (installed 2 1/2 weeks ago),
<... you didn't have a heater previously?>
Eco-Aqualizer E125 ( just
installed 10 days ago),
<And a pyramid hat?>
1 live plant ( not
sure of what it is), 10 - 15 various plastic plants, and also plastic
breeding grass.
Now for my fish I have..
8 Danios (4 zebra, 4
tiger)
1 Blue Dwarf Gourami
2 Guppies (1M, 1F, Had 3 F but lost 2
recently)
11 Various Platys (4 M, 7 F)
2 Neon Tetra's ( had 8 but
have recently been losing them)
2 Black skirt Tetra's (1M, 1F)
2
Goldfish ( prizes from the fair in August, they have grown 3 times their
original size and getting moved to another tank as soon as funds allow)
<A very good idea>
4 Albino Cory's
1 Pleco
2 Baby fry ( I
believe 1 is a Platy and the other is a Guppy)
I am not sure if this
tank is overstocked or not But I know you will tell me, at least I am
hoping you would. Also I've learned from your site the I should not have
the goldfish in there at all, but I assure you they will be moved very
soon.
<Good>
Now onto my problems, after a couple months of losing
several fish I had finally got a beautiful tank. I didn't know anything
about cycling it or really anything about having and taking care of
fish. On a whim I decided to get one for the house and luckily I started
with a large one. After all the hardships and sadness of losing fish
after fish I finally was able to enjoy the tank, I'm sure you know the
relaxing power they have. Well the first of October the tank took a temp
drop from a steady 78 degrees to 67 degrees in a matter of days.
<Yikes!>
I then noticed several of my platies with white spots 1 of
them had the spots really bad. After doing some research I concluded
that it had to be Ich and I treated the whole tank following the
directions on the label I took out the carbon filters and all. Bought
the heater and got the temp back up to the normal 78 degrees. After
about 5 days the spots were gone except for the one Platy that had them
worse Hers were gone after a week had gone by. However I didn't know
that the treatment would cause my tank to have to recycle again.
<Yes, commonly so>
I started losing my fish again ( 6 neon's and 2
guppies). I had no idea what was going on ( which brought me to your
site). And learning what the process of the cycle is. So I bought a
testing kit and I believe I am almost done cycling, here are my readings
from the last 3 days, maybe you can tell.
10/25 PH 7.0 Nitrite .25
Nitrate 0 Ammonia 0
10/26 PH 7.2 Nitrite .25 Nitrate 5 Ammonia 0
10/27 PH 7.2 Nitrite 0 Nitrate Less then 5 but not 0 Ammonia 0
My
water is very soft due to a water softener installed for the house
because we have well water.
<Mmm, you might want to "blend" in some
percent of the well water... maybe 10%... to add "hardness" and alkaline
reserve>
And I have always done a weekly 20 percent water change.
Do you think its almost done or do I still have a way to go?
<Looks
about done>
I am sorry that this is so long but I thought it would
help if you had all the information to go on. Because my last problem is
the reason that tonight was the night I decided to write you. I came
home and noticed one of my danios, it is a long finned by the way, has
two orangey-red spots on her tail one along the very top and one along
the very bottom. It was not there this morning when I left. It doesn't
look like it was damaged by another fish and none of the other fish have
these spots on them. I've looked on your site for some kind of clue what
it could be but can not find anything. It is acting fine, not sick, very
active, eating, playful as always. But I am still worried as to what it
could be. Any help or advice you can give me would be greatly
appreciated. Again I'm sorry for the lengthy email.
Thank you
Jennifer
<Likely "just" environmental stress... should cure on its
own with time. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: Need advice on
setup and possible Danio problem 10/30/05
Hello Bob. Thanks for
writing back. Yes I had put off buying the heater because the
temperature in the tank had been steady, and then it suddenly got cold
here outside.
<I see>
I just wish I had known before what it would
do to my fish. But I know now! Of course the outbreak of Ich had me
online looking up cures which brought me to the Eco-Aqualizer( which
after almost 2 weeks has not cleared up the cloudiness, and its going
back). But nope no pyramid hat. Would that help me?? ;->
<Hee heee,
heeeeee!>
I'll start looking it up. LOL So as an update to my
previous email. The 2 Goldfish are now in their very own 29 gallon tank
with 2 Albino Cory's. I took gravel and 15 gallons of water out of the
75 gallon tank and put it in the new tank. So it wouldn't have to go
through a whole cycle.
<Ah, good>
Unfortunately the Danio I wrote
about with the spots on its tail, I found floating this morning. All the
other's are fine, so I don't know what happened. As far as my 75 gallon
tank though I would like to replace what I have lost through everything
this past month. 6 Neon Tetras, 2 Guppies and 1 Danio. What is your
opinion? Am I already full with what is left or do you think I have room
in the tank for them?
<There is room>
As far as adding well water
to the tank I have no access to the water. It is run through the
softener direct from the main line. All I have between the softener and
the well is a shut-off valve.
<Interesting... even the outside/garden
hose water is softened? I would check on this>
Is there something I
should buy and add to the tank for the hardness and alkalinity?
<Mmm,
you could... but I would still find some "ordinary tap" to just blend
in>
My water readings the past two days have been... The 28 PH was
7.0 Nitrite, Nitrate and Ammonia 0. And tonight the PH was 6.6
<Mmm,
too much of a drop... you might indeed want to add a few teaspoons of
sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to a glass of water to the tank... to
bolster its alkaline/pH stability>
( I assume from the water change)
and Nitrite, Nitrate and Ammonia is 0. I don't add any water conditioner
or anything to the tank because there is no chlorine in it. All I put in
after a gravel vacuum and water change is stress coat. Do you think I
should be putting anything in it to help with the cloudiness or will
this also clear up after the cycle is through?
<Will clear on its own
in time>
Thanks again for your advice.
Jennifer
<A pleasure to
proffer it. Bob Fenner>
Re: Need advice on setup and possible
Danio problem
Nope, even the outside faucets have the softened
water.
<Very strange...>
I found this out after filling our pool
this summer. All the water went through the softener and it went berserk
because of all the cycles it had to do in two days.
<I'll bet>
(Whew but that was a whole other issue). Anyways after thinking a few
minutes I'm going to ask our neighbors if they can provide us with 8
gallons
of their water a week. I'm sure they will have no problem
with this.
However our water (prior to the softener, acid
neutralizer and some other tank being installed) had the most terrible
iron smell and had a slight
rusty color to it. If theirs is the same
would that be harmful to the tank?
<Could be... you do want to have
some "hardness" component/s to your water... though some of the fishes
listed (e.g. Neons) prefer quite soft conditions... and little iron>
As for the baking soda would I do that with my weekly changes or if/when
I notice the PH drop?
<Best with the water changes>
Thanks for
your help
Jennifer
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Multiple Neon
Gobies, Magnetic marvels, pyramid hats, rambling... 9/19.5/05
Hi there,
<Hello>
Upon the suggestion of something I read on
your site or elsewhere, I had purchased 4 neon gobies for my 55 gallon
tank. Before that they
were in QT for a month and during that time,
I tried to determine the sexes. I then released them into the 55 to see
if any would pair up
and I could remove the 2 left overs as I did
read one 1 or a pair can remain.
<Yikes... good luck>
In a
short few weeks, only 1 remained. I have determined that they will seek
out and kill the same sex until one remains. Is that true?
<Happens
at times... but generally no... are pretty social animals in the wild,
stocked in good numbers in transition in the trade>
I asked a LFS
and they said that you can have several in the same tank and they will
be fine. Well, I think that is a bunch of poo, because it seems EVERY
salt water creature can only be a mated pair or ONE in each tank (with
the exception of clowns with their own anemone in a large tank).
<Mmm, not so>
My question was, since I do have the BLUE NEON, if I
added a GOLD, would the blue attack and kill it as he/she did the
others? Or would the color variation prevent that?
<Should be fine
to mix...>
I do have a cleaner shrimp as well (the tangs like him
and my solar fairy likes the goby) I did notice the goby will go after
and take off any Lympho (unharmful white stuff ...bacteria or non-fatal
protozoan....I just can't remember the name) off the wrasse whether the
wrasse likes it or not! lol! I was told that the cleaner shrimp do NOT
eat the crypto/Oodinium, but only the neons do, which lead me to buying
one of each, but like I said, I WOULD
like another, but not if he
will kill the gold. Thanks for your time!!!!
Oh, slightly off the
subject:
I do highly recommend to anyone with a salt water tank, an
ionizer!!!!!
I have tested calcium and mag. right OUT of the
ionizer and the levels were higher than the tank.....so it is great for
keeping levels up. I know it is basically a magnetized method, right?
<Are you referring to the product the EcoAqualizer? Is magnet "driven">
I have had NO illnesses, NO ich.......and since I put one in, and yes
you will hate this.....I do not QT new fish because this ionizer kills
ich, and prevents microalgae issues etc.
<... how?>
Unlike a UV,
it does not take out the good stuff. And between my goby and shrimp, I
am not worried. I can always PUT them in QT if an issue arises.
<Too late...>
I don't know what your thoughts are on the
matter, and maybe I have been fortunate, but once I move to my 150, I
will probably QT then. I really think a F/W dip for 15-20 minutes with
Meth. blue (PS: Meth. blue will kill royal grammas...any other fish it
is harmful to
<No...>
and the ionizer is the BEST and easiest,
and least stressful for the fish instead of being in a QT....as most
people only have a 20 set up and have to do a ton of water changes if
Coppersafing as it kills all good bacteria.
As time goes on, we all
learn something new. I almost lost my scooter blenny in QT as there are
no copepods to eat! I put him in my main display and he fattened
up. (I have a supplier who I buy copepods off of....now I have a fat
mandarin as I supply him every month with new copepods, this was after
trading in my scooter) Thanks for your time and I do appreciate being
able to voice my experience thus far. Have a great weekend!
<Thanks... and I won't limit you... have a great lifetime. Bob Fenner>
I Think I Have (Bristle) Worms, Eco-Aqualizer Question
I think
that I have bristle worms in my tank.
<<Not unheard of.>>
My Live
rock is loaded with them.
<<Ah, EXCELLENT indicator of husbandry
(lack thereof), detritus levels. The worms are there in large numbers
because they have plenty of food.>>
I have taken a picture of one
that I caught.
<<Not by hand, I hope. Bristle worms look similar to
fire worms, NOT fun! Both can leave these very fine hairs in your skin,
not entirely unlike some species of cacti. (Yes, I have been stuck, left
little bumps in my finger for YEARS!)>>
My question is this, are they
harmful to the tank or should I just leave them in the tank?
<<No,
they are not harmful at all. There are those who will assert that they
can eat your tridacnids, some corals, etc., but they are misinformed.
Bristle worms are specifically detritivores (detritAvores?), they eat
dead and rotting stuff. Of course, there are species that may attack
desirable specimens, but these are not an indicator of tank
health/husbandry, and don't usually appear in the large proportions we
see with bristle worms.>>
Are they beneficial and if so how do they
benefit the tank?
<<They're quite beneficial, especially if you
haven't got a handle on the detritus, as they will actually help prevent
a huge buildup of nitrate within the system by their consumption.
However, they're not very pretty, I personally don't find them desirable
(not after having been stuck), and would address the husbandry here to
get their numbers down. All such issues are posted here on WWM ad
infinitum.>>
I have attached two pictures.
<<Good shots.>>
I
am also wondering if anyone knows anything about a product called
Molecular Ionization which is an inline Aquarium ionization device.
Their web site is
www.ecoaqualizer.com and the product is Inline aquarium
ionization.
<<Just reading the drivel on their site gets my hackles
up!>>
It is supposed to clean the water and help prevent disease and
algae growth.
<<This product is useless, a waste of time, money,
effort. If what they claim were possible, why are municipal water
districts not using it? Go to reefs.org, search this product, learn what
a hoax it is!>>
Thank you,
Kathy
<<You're welcome, Kathy. Spend
your hard-earned on a good protein skimmer, instead. Stay away from
these products that promise the world based on pseudo-science. Marina>>
P.S. A big hello to Bob Fenner!!! I have not been in this forum for
quite a while.
<<Say "Hello", Bob!>> <Hello>
Another
ECO-Aqualizer inquiry...
Evening!
<And to you>
The question
has recently come up on our forum about the ECO-Aqualizer...and while
not promoting the product in any way, I also feel it's unfair to
criticize it site-unseen (untested?).
<Mmmm>
I have found many
reviews and anecdotal information about the unit on the web, in
magazine...I'm sure all
stuff you've read. The one I've found just
now is on your site here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/magneticfltfaqs.htm
<Yes... my
conversations with one of the owners, promoters... encouraging them to
produce real data...>
Seems to be an incomplete conversation, and
without dates it difficult to impossible to place it in a timeframe.
<This last year...>
So, I have to admit that my curiosity (or
gullibility, as it may be?) has seemed to have got the better of me, and
I'm contemplating purchasing this device, if for nothing more than to
give a first-hand account of any failures or successes with it. I'm
wondering if the communication in the link above ever progressed any
further?
<Not yet>
I'm even considering purchasing a couple units
and experimenting with them myself, as I'm not sure how well a single
unit could be deemed a true success or not, with the other variables
that no doubt come into play with our captive ecosystems.
<Bingo...
real science... requires replicate sets of experiments, control of other
measurable factors...>
Any further input you have would we welcome.
<Okay, the phony baloney "articles" written about these EMR filtration
products are... ludicrous... Blanket statements re "making water into a
crystal"... You've read these "reviews" I take it... I am not a
scientist, but did teach H.S. level physics and chemistry... there is a
long history of these pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo products... Just
show me the facts please... the water went through your unit at such
rate... compared with the same circulation through a similar tube...
what were the resultant changes in water quality in X hours? More Redox,
dissolved oxygen, fixed carbon... what? I welcome your experimental
modeling, results and discussion>
Oh, and how the heck do I get rid
of this Cyanobacteria in my 155g tank?? Two Velocity Ti 1225gph pump,
ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, phosphates all test zero! Fish load: female
G. semifasciatus, bicolor blenny, pair of S. splendidus and four small
green-banded gobies...got me stumped (may, in fact, be powering my
interest in the EA!).
Fred Bocskor
President, Founder
Smoky
Mountain Aquarium Society
<Take the long read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/index.htm
scroll
down to "Algae Control", read the pieces on Cyanobacteria... Bob Fenner,
keying with the pyramid over his head> <Editor's note: go to
reefs.org to see some long discussions regarding the Eco-Aqualizer.
Someone from Inland Aquatics (either Matt Marulla or Tom O'Toole) tried
one, dubious results.>
Eco-Aqualizer for real?
Hey
guys,
I'm writing to ask about the Eco-Aqualizer (http://www.ecoaqualizer.com)
There's an article by Bob Goeman's saying this contraption is for real.
<He... works for the same co.... Marc Weiss>
They explain the basic
physics behind it, and some of it "sounds" logical but some of it sounds
a little kooky ("light" photos from a ceramic powder?) The
website is
loaded with 180 day money-back guarantees (return shipping included) and
BBB endorsements.
<You can join the BBB. Just send them money.
Really>
Is this thing for real? If so, it seems it would be truly
revolutionary.
What's the straight scoop?
<Kooky in my book as
well. Please see Anthony and I's comments re here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/rofaq4.htm
Bob Fenner>
Silicon
Valley Steve
- Well? Eco-Aqualizer Skepticism -
Hi guys,
<Good morning, JasonC here...>
Sorry to sound like a broken record
(or would that be scratched CD) but I'm still wondering about this
Eco-Aqualizer. They now show a "case study" of some fish store owner and
her higher survival rates including her phone number to call her
personally.
<Why am I not surprised.>
I know all this is
anecdotal, but frankly your replies are just skepticism. <You better
believe it - I am very skeptical about this product.> I'd like to see
some objective analysis (set up two identical tanks with identical
livestock etc, and compare the results). <I'm afraid that's not going to
happen here any time soon - we're not a research organization. Your
suggestion does have merit - perhaps you will set up two separate tanks
and then share the results.>
This contraption sounds like BS but
there is also something intriguing with some basic physics which have
some basis in fact. <Uhh... I'm not sure about that. There are also some
basic physical laws which their claims leave by the road side. In my
mind, the Eco Aqualizer is bunk. Some of their claims are just too
outlandish.> Is it possible that someone will do some objective
research? <It could be you... but if you are intrigued and think it
might help you, please don't listen to me, just go buy the thing.>
Thanks,
Silicon Valley Steve
<Cheers, J -- >
Eco
Aqualizer
Was at my local fish store today and they were telling
me about this product I should try. Don't know if they were just trying
to sell me something or if the thing really works. Thought I would ask
you guys what y'all thought of the product and if it is even worth
buying. It is called the Eco Aqualizer and this is the web site
www.ecoaqualizer.com Any info y'all have would be much
appreciated..............Thanks
<You can see Anthony, Gage and I's
comments re here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/rofaq4.htm
Umm, let's see... "mystery"
device that works on magnet power... that makers won't or can't explain
how it does, what it does... except "no need to change water"... Seen
this spiel a few times over the years. No sale. Bob Fenner>
Eco-Aqualizer
Hey Anthony,
Have you heard anything about the
eco-Aqualizer? http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/ Sounds like one of those
fancy smancy bells or whistles. Read a review of it the other day in one
of the fish mag.s, sounds cool to me, but I am a sucker to advertising.
-Gage
Re: eco-Aqualizer
The first claim on their
homepage-website is that it reduces water changes and they even have a
prominent link to a suggested schedule (?!?) of reduced water changes...
read further and they claim maintenance free (nothing in an aquarium is
such)... also that it is endorsed by Bob Goeman's (nice chap... but why
does he do these things?/associations with snake oil style marketers)...
<... think we've heard these sorts of claims before...>
All those
things add up to one big joke IMO.
<Have never seen such statements
substantiated... IMO the single best (cheapest, simplest,
cost-effective) means of assuring consistent, high water quality are...
frequent partial water changes, thank you>
If its an ozonizer... just
call it what it is... spare us the misleading/inaccurate marketing...
and enjoy the many legitimate benefits of ozonation (although I
am
not sure that is exactly what it is).
<How can an ozonizer run on
magnets? Not joking, this is what "powers" these units>
Heehee... an
industry without watchdogs... gotta love it <G>
Antoine
<Cave
canem, "beware of the dog". Bob F>
Re: eco-Aqualizer
Doh!.. I did not even care to read it far/close enough to see the
"magnet" spiel (after they opened their pitch with a link to "suggested
reduced water change schedule)... saw ionization, increased O2, parasite
control... thought it was a glorified ozonizer in a deliberately
confusing shell... now I see that its
likely just a piece of
monkey-spank.
<Woo hoo! And... "thousands sold in Europe", "freeway
close", "be the first one on your block"... comes with a genuine
quote/sticker from P.T. Barnum!>
Bob said it all... it does not get
any better than water changes.
Ciao, bubs
<Arrividerci mi
compadres. Bob>
AquaSponic !!! (Eco-Aqualizer)
Hello
Bob,
<Carl>
Its summer time and I'm sure you have been enjoying
the outdoors. I'm still waiting for that first dive trip. Things are
going great here at ECO-Aqualizer. I recently hired an associate who
previous maintained a 4,000 gallon reef exhibit at an AZA accredited zoo
along with his 12 years of professional aquarium experience. Good man to
have in the boat.
<Glad to hear/read of your progress!>
I am sorry
for not getting back with you here the last 6 months or so - but I have
been a very busy individual. My product is now in 18 countries - with
Exclusive Distributors in Asia. Both Europe and Asia seem to have very
educated hobbyists. Open-mindedness comes to thought but in reality
their cultures completely understands science. Japan is also a leading
industry with similar technologies used within the ECO-Aqualizer. Its a
shame that most Americans are so quick to bash and slander things when
they have no first hand experience with this technology.
<Mmm, might
I suggest you consider an approach in your advertising, overall
promotion? I think a very simple experiment of a small sample size (ten
ten gallon tanks?) of a given chemical, biological make-up... and simply
chart the changes you observe with and w/o the use of your product?>
I will boast that with over 4,000 units now sold - we have had only 2
returned. I knew that my "180 Day Money Back Guarantee" was a risky
option for myself, even though the investors thought elsewise. I guess
I'm lucky in 2 ways, because I did not go with those investors and now
I'm free and clear.
<Thank goodness!>
And secondly, my product is
safely saving many fishes lives - and that was my intention from the
beginning of this adventure. It feels very good to be doing something
positive for a hobby that has captured my heart, even though it consumes
endless hours.
<Outstanding. Our goals are confluent here>
Oh yes,
almost forgot, I have had the pleasure of spending countless hours
consulting with Nelson Herwig, Curator of Fishes at the Houston Zoo.
<A fine gentleman>
He himself has spent over 6 years researching the
dynamic energies involved with magnetism, especially regarding it's
application in water and cellular biology. Nelson is the same man that
discovered exactly how Potassium Cyanide adversely effects the kidneys
of fish. He also worked hand in hand with Steve Robinson of Cortez
Marine. Nelson also wrote a book that was one of the first compilation
manuals regarding the pharmaceutical treatment of fish Diseases and
Parasites.
<Yes. I use, cite it often>
He is a fascinating
scientist and has offered many insights regarding the incredible effects
that our product has on the immune system of fish among other things.
Anyway, hope to see you at MACNA in Louisville. I think you will really
enjoy my associates and welcome their field expertise. Mind boggling
stories to share.
<I'll be out of the country for this go-around>
I was tuning into WetWebMedia and was wanting to run a full banner AD
for the next six months or so. To my surprise, I encountered some
pretty bad threads from some uninformed people. Slander again from
those too cheap to try a product with a Money Back Guarantee. Well....
if I could put them in touch with my 4000+ customers - I would. They
are very very happy, buying more units and now starting up second tanks
since their aquariums are so easy to maintain now.
<Make it known
if/when you'd like to try your ad>
Oh by the way, I am not part of
Marc Weiss.
<Good to hear/read as well>
And Bob Goeman's is
probably the most honest reporter in the field. Its a shame that he has
gotten bashed for being honest.
<He is also a fine gentleman>
And no, he is not part of my company either. I just met him myself at
the International Marine Convention in Chicago. I can't believe all the
politics involved in a hobby that we are all suppose to love. For God
sakes, it has a 180 Day Money Back Guarantee, because we know that
everyone will greatly benefit with it. Bob, you should send me your
address. I would love for you to see the incredible difference in ECO
treated water.
<Our address is 8586 Menkar Rd. San Diego, CA 92126.
Carl, if you have input, testing you'd like for us to post re your
products, do send it along>
Hey Bob, give me a call. We should talk.
1-866-ECO-AQUA, and either Brad or Janice will direct the call to me.
Always a pleasure...... CARL DENZER
<Am just back from travel
(Malaysia the last few weeks, so will take some time to catch up with
correspondence. Hope to chat with you through the Net in the meanwhile.
Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: AquaSponic !!!
Hello Bob,
Glad to hear of your response. But being an honest person that I am, I
feel I should be straight forward with.
<Please do, always>
I was
a bit offended to see some threads posted at WWM. Especially some things
that you had said about our product. Believe it or not, as kooky as it
sounds, our product will have a dramatic effect on this industry. Its
time we preserve the sea creatures that we all love so much and
ECO-Aqualizer will greatly have an impact on that success.
<I keep
hearing this "commentary" from your ads... and really wish you would
"just state the facts" re exactly "what" your product does so folks can
understand what they're getting... not necessary to be too technical, or
to reveal proprietary secrets... but, as you state, there have been a
bunch of "kooky" magnetic products with bizarre claims... yours may just
look like one more to potential consumers>
I will send some data for
you to post on WWM. All testing is being done by Nelson Herwig and
Vincent Hargreaves (UK) - all third party validations. Some of these
reports will even go into the DNA of diseases and how ECO has responded,
as well as microscopic reviews at 1000x. I just hope the public don't
ramble again about its unwillingness to accept a very new concept.
<Really would like to see, share these>
All things come to a past and
new things replace the old ways. It should be looked upon as a step
forward - not condemned for hocus-pocus. Yes, our product involves
physics that most hobbyist are completely unaware of - even marine
biologist are unaware of the dynamics of quantum physics. Yet this is
exactly the step forward this industry has needed.
<Mmm, well, I once
taught H.S. Physics... and still read a few journals...>
I do very
much want to advertise on WWM, but fear that the comments that you have
previous made about ECO-Aqualizer, will have more weight and sway
consumers away.
<No need to advertise one way or the other, believe
me. Am happy to "plug" good products, services, and for the most part
not volunteer opinions re shams>
I'm sure you are aware that starting
a new business is very hard, I have to be careful where I spend my
dollars. The rate of return must be adequately met or the call for
action is not necessary.
<Am very aware of what being self-employed
in this industry is like... I have been "in it" for more years than
you've been on the planet. As regards association with us (WWM, WWF), we
have more daily traffic than FAMA (ask our current sponsors), and more
monthly traffic than all the national pet-fish zines.>
I think you
once said you get 5000+ visitors a day,
<Now closer to 9k>
if this
is true, then WWM would be a viable source. And I would commit to a long
term advertisement (a big box). But honestly, if you speak badly about
my product, I'm gambling with a deck of Saddam cards. And most Aces
have been retired.
<Mmm, I don't speak one way or the other re your
line. I have no contact with it other than having met you two fellows,
who appear to be reasonable, intelligent and very-well intentioned>
Also, you mentioned a 10 ten gallon tank tests. If any readers see
this, PLEASE advise that tanks need to be at least 3 feet away from each
other - otherwise, the results will begin to mirror each other due to
the magnetic flux travel.
<Really? Magnetic fields drop off in
intensity at a square of the distance from their source... these fields
must be something! I was suggesting that you folks do some simple,
repeatable (by others) experiments that could/would demonstrate the
relative benefits, effects of your products use... Like five tanks with,
five w/o, with different stocking densities... of whatever sort of
set-ups.>
If the tanks are adequately separated, the claimed
results will become very obvious and undisputable. Just thought this
should be mentioned beforehand and not after the fact. Please clarify
with readers so no incorrect testing has been resulted.
<Will do so.
You have here>
No hard feelings, I think you're a great guy with good
intentions and feel that WWM can be a big help in deciding the future of
improvement in aquaria.
<Along with our book publishing, and soon
other media we have and will continue to do so>
Down the road,
ECO-Aqualizer will be as important to a new tank setup as the actual
aquarium itself. That is if you care about keeping fish alive -
long-term.
<Outstanding. I do hope so and that you do well
financially as a consequence>
Hope all is well and still looking
forward to a dive sometime.
<Come out with us! Just talked with Ken
Wong (Marine Depot, Bayside) and he is hoping to join us next week
(24-31) in Hawaii. Will add your email addy to our dive/travel adventure
list. Bob Fenner>
Bests... Carl
